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    I wonder how many people here haven't realized "Nunh" is also a product of the name generator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I don't know what a Nuhn is, who's the real loser here.
    Nunh (not Nuhn) is one of the two surnames that male Sunseekers will canonically have - but they're not family names, they're tribe ranks.

    Each tribe will have one nunh - ie. breeding male; an 'earned' position that can be claimed by defeating the current nunh. (For the two tribes we've actually visited, this role is also leader of the tribe, although lore indicates that's not always the case.)

    All other males have the rank "tia", which is why there seem to be so many with the same surname.

    (Females don't have ranks in the same way, but use their father's name without the tribe-letter, eg. we can derive that Y'shtola Rhul's father is named Y'rhul Nunh - as long as he holds that position, anyway.)


    So if a player uses the surname Nunh, whether knowingly or not, they are claiming to hold that rank and prestige over at least a subset of other people from whichever tribe they belong to.

    Grand claims aside, it seems unlikely that the nunh would be out adventuring anyway - I assume he'd have to stay with the tribe and be ready to defend that title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Nunh (not Nuhn) is one of the two surnames that male Sunseekers will canonically have - but they're not family names, they're tribe ranks.

    Each tribe will have one nunh - ie. breeding male; an 'earned' position that can be claimed by defeating the current nunh. (For the two tribes we've actually visited, this role is also leader of the tribe, although lore indicates that's not always the case.)

    All other males have the rank "tia", which is why there seem to be so many with the same surname.

    (Females don't have ranks in the same way, but use their father's name without the tribe-letter, eg. we can derive that Y'shtola Rhul's father is named Y'rhul Nunh - as long as he holds that position, anyway.)


    So if a player uses the surname Nunh, whether knowingly or not, they are claiming to hold that rank and prestige over at least a subset of other people from whichever tribe they belong to.

    Grand claims aside, it seems unlikely that the nunh would be out adventuring anyway - I assume he'd have to stay with the tribe and be ready to defend that title.
    Oh wow i didn't know this, interesting.

    I never noticed any male miqo'te with that surname. I guess i'll be on the lookout now.

    Its kind of hard to picture some dominant male miqo'te lol.
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    A fair few Miqote seem to have abandoned that clan structure or at least don't feel bound to it. Regardless, it seems a result of the differences in birthrates between males and females in Miqote. Nunh aren't always the ones running the Tribe either and there are occasions where a tribe will have more than one Nunh, particularly if it is of a large size and covers a lot of ground. I was actually curious in SB if the J tribe has abandoned the old tribe structure since all J members we see are living as part of Ala Mhigan society. Obviously with my character's name it perked my interest.
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    Just sue them all, take em to court and take their lunch money.
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    My girlfriends told me not to worry about the new Hrothgar guy visiting the village. They all left me for him. And now I’m back to being a Tia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I have a better question. Why would you want a harem? Have you not seen the anime's? It's like an inevitable trainwreck of suffering for the male MC. Its more fun to be the male MC's friend who is safely outside the danger zone and is free to stir up stuff to make it worse... >.>;
    It's problematic, but not for the reason you think. Anime harems aren't real harems. The MC doesn't have multiple lovers, he has multiple girls competing to become his sole lover. Hence the jealousy and comedic physical violence each girl applies when it looks like the MC is straying toward one of the other girls.

    In the case of Sunseekers, the girls are ALL his lovers, whether he wants them or not. I mean, clearly he wants to be Nunh, but that position comes with the obligation to be willing to mate with any female member of the tribe who wants it. I doubt a Nunh is allowed to restrict himself to just a handful of favorites; he likely has to put out even for females that he personally finds repellent (particularly if that individual is accomplished in some way, like a great warrior or talented crafter). Gotta keep the genetic diversity high, after all! When one of them comes to the tent, there's nothing for it but to lie back and think of England...
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    This is partially related, partially not-so-much. According to the lore/game in various places, interracial breeding is relatively rare. At least, successful stories are rare. Ones that happened are shunned. However, it's implied the adoption between races isn't really rare at all.

    So what I want to know is, why do you never encounter NPCs named via naming conventions of other races? You would think somewhere along the line, a nameless, abandoned catboy baby would be found by a nice lala couple, who then proceed to name him Lalatu Tulala.
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    "Nunh" culture is using the default idle pose, one of the faces with that whispy beard, playing a DRK, SAM, or PLD exclusively, and standing uncomfortably close to people when emoting at them.

    ...I go to limsa lominsa a lot for the convenient market board...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    Oh wow i didn't know this, interesting.

    I never noticed any male miqo'te with that surname. I guess i'll be on the lookout now.

    Its kind of hard to picture some dominant male miqo'te lol.
    There's only a small chance of it coming up in the random name generator (3% if I remember correctly), and a lot of players don't use lore-accurate names anyway.

    Character-wise, the only nunhs we've come across are from the tribes we can actually visit - U'odh Nunh at Forgotten Springs and M'rahz Nunh at the Peering Stones. Both are older men, so it could be a veteran/experience thing as much as physical power.

    (But it's not actually that hard to come up with more strong warrior-looking Miqo'te; they just don't tend to get used that way.)



    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I was actually curious in SB if the J tribe has abandoned the old tribe structure since all J members we see are living as part of Ala Mhigan society. Obviously with my character's name it perked my interest.
    There's a "J Tribe Youngling" NPC in a sidequest, so probably they're still a functioning tribe (or the writer wasn't thinking about it).



    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    This is partially related, partially not-so-much. According to the lore/game in various places, interracial breeding is relatively rare. At least, successful stories are rare. Ones that happened are shunned. However, it's implied the adoption between races isn't really rare at all.

    So what I want to know is, why do you never encounter NPCs named via naming conventions of other races? You would think somewhere along the line, a nameless, abandoned catboy baby would be found by a nice lala couple, who then proceed to name him Lalatu Tulala.
    Probably due to the same logic that means names are strictly race-defined and never seem to meld into "Gridanian names" or "Ul'dahn names" - not even mixing between Midlander and Highlander in places where both clans are common.

    But it's an interesting thing to play around with for your own characters.

    Though to be pedantic, "Lalatu Tulala" wouldn't be a correctly structured Lalafell name for any of the clan/gender combinations.
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