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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    It's reasonable to assume that people are reading this stuff, just not the stuff you might imagine.

    And It's Yoshida's translator Koji who most likely reads a bulk of the forum stuff to take notes and relay back to the proper channels.

    There is also the forums mods; who i presume do a lot of the sifting & gathering of information for Koji to translate for Yoshida.

    But by-and-large the General Discussion sections aren't likely targeted as much or flagged as places where important information gets posted in by players, so it wouldn't surprise me if the Staff tend to treat GD-section as the "Rant" section, and the other sections being deemed more important for them to actively watch and respond to.
    To be fair, looking at some of the posts i see in GD... I wouldn't bother either.
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  2. #12
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    To be fair, "General Discussion" is just that - general discussion. It is not the go-to place for constructive feedback. There are other sections of the forums for some of these topics.

    Want to talk about the lack of a healer role for 5.0? Try the Healer Roles.
    Want to talk about free companies getting the shaft for world shuffling and no compensation at all? Try the Companies section.
    Want to discuss the lack of appealing forum bans? Have a friend(s) start a topic in the Feedback section of the forums.
    Want to give feedback on how much you love Eureka and relics being there? Show your support in Other Battle Systems.

    It'd probably help if topics were largely consolidated. I'd assume a thread with 100+ with maximum posts per page would garner a lot more attention than a couple of people spamming the same topic in new threads everyday. It'd also give a better environment for people to post feedback for both pros and cons and not have to look at multiple threads for the general feeling of a region toward the topic.

    It'd also be great if people took the time to research if their questions have been asked, and answered, in the past; like that updated graphics when thread.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 03-31-2019 at 03:51 PM.

  3. #13
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    To be fair, "General Discussion" is just that - general discussion. It is not the go-to place for constructive feedback. There are other sections of the forums for some of these topics.

    Want to talk about the lack of a healer role for 5.0? Try the Healer Roles.
    Want to talk about free companies getting the shaft for world shuffling and no compensation at all? Try the Companies section.
    Want to discuss the lack of appealing forum bans? Have a friend(s) start a topic in the Feedback section of the forums.
    Want to give feedback on how much you love Eureka and relics being there? Show your support in Other Battle Systems.

    It'd probably help if topics were largely consolidated. I'd assume a thread with 100+ with maximum posts per page would garner a lot more attention than a couple of people spamming the same topic in new threads everyday. It'd also give a better environment for people to post feedback for both pros and cons and not have to look at multiple threads for the general feeling of a region toward the topic.

    It'd also be great if people took the time to research if their questions have been asked, and answered, in the past; like that updated graphics when thread.
    I believe it has been stated before that the community team pools a list of topics and posts with the most likes/posts and forwards that to the dev team. So essentially, when people make 300000 topics about the same thing thinking that that is how they get dev attention, nope, you are actually making sure you get no attention instead.
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  4. #14
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    Aelin Alvered
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraftOs View Post
    Because to be honest, I’m not seeing very many questions being answered that are from the forums. I know he and his team are Japanese, but I have no doubt they have someone there who speaks some English.

    Idk, to me, seems like 90% of posts and requests here are either ignored, or are greeted with the same answer: “We can’t do that. We would have to rebuild the graphics engine.”, etc

    Maybe Yoshi just does what he wants, idk
    Once a week Yoshi gets a transcript of the most popular threads of the week on the European and English forum translated, I was told this when I went to a meetup.
    So he does read our threads, but he rarely writes an official message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    To be fair, "General Discussion" is just that - general discussion. It is not the go-to place for constructive feedback. There are other sections of the forums for some of these topics. It'd probably help if topics were largely consolidated. I'd assume a thread with 100+ with maximum posts per page would garner a lot more attention than a couple of people spamming the same topic in new threads everyday. It'd also give a better environment for people to post feedback for both pros and cons and not have to look at multiple threads for the general feeling of a region toward the topic.

    It'd also be great if people took the time to research if their questions have been asked, and answered, in the past; like that updated graphics when thread.
    Yeah, we should all probably try to self organize a bit more as a community. The disorganized nature of the forums is something I've taken notice of and the mods seem to give us a lot of freedom. Many threads that would fit into the specific forum categories given to us are opened here in General instead. Responding to hot topics here as a Dev would probably feel like a tense situation given how passionate people can get on the forums. I've no doubt that I've come across as overly argumentative or adversarial to a lot of people myself (my apologies).

    All in all, if posters cleaned up a bit more, the important feedback would only be easier for SE to view if they wanted to look.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Problem is most people don't have the patience or wherewithal to join or search for an already existing thread cuz I'M ANGRY AND MY OPINION is the most important and must be heard.



    So obviously if i create a new thread people will flock to mine and no others. like the other posters above have said - contribute to an already existing thread. make it a million pages long. make sure relevant posts with the most constructive feedback to say get tons of likes. that's what they're looking for.
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    Last edited by DrWho2010; 03-31-2019 at 06:40 PM.

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    So I'm curious when "not replying directly to you" = "doesn't listen to English audience at all"?

    Seriously, just because you don't get a personal response to your Concern (TM) doesn't mean the feedback isn't being received. And just because you think something is a good idea, doesn't mean they think it's a good idea. So if they don't implement your idea, that doesn't mean they aren't listening.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    So I'm curious when "not replying directly to you" = "doesn't listen to English audience at all"?
    Yess

    The english GMs really could show a little presence here.

    In the german board the GMs writing much more often and interact with the community more. Too bad the german community is only the same handfull of people all the time who shoot down everything wich isn't in their mindset. Hard to find like minded people over there to bring something forward to the GMs >.>

    They even had a "News from the dev team" topic, where our german community manager posted some stuff about what the devs were currently working on.

    There was this german community live stream where you could play together with the GMs to clear some raidturns (only normal mode, but hey).

    Fan Gatherings where people met with the community and the GMs in some pub or whatever it was.

    But here in the english board? Nothing.

    Some presence of the GMs from time to time would be nice, so we actually know we are not shouting into an empty hall...
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    Last edited by Tint; 03-31-2019 at 07:22 PM.

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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Sometimes it may take a while, but I think they do listen.

    Take Chocobo companions for examples. You use to have to dispell them if you wanted to queue for a duty.

    I remember people making threads on it long ago, and it seemed like we'd never get it. The thread was abandoned and forgotten, but we still got it.

    I think that most people just don't pay attention to all the little quality of life stuff that they do that have all been little requests from us here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I think that most people just don't pay attention to all the little quality of life stuff that they do that have all been little requests from us here.
    I really hope so, but I am still stuck in these ugly sandals despite the fact that we requested to be able to be barefoot over and over again over the last years.

    Some feedback from the GMs would be nice from time to time :x
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