Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Klein_Rider]

I agree with the both gender inclusion (m/f), BUT first, please SE, do something about the current caracter creation tool. It need to be more customizable, I mean, wide open the gates of the individualista. Any type of beards for any race, horns not locked by face for Au Ra's, scars for who like them and Butt and chest sliders for everyone.
If some race will earn special fraturas for character creation, all of them need too. Agree?

[AHermit]

Wanting a male viera aas well, with the body of Omega, unf. Or even a Feol male

[BillyKaplan]

I really hope its more then a pallet swap!

It probably will be, they mentioned the clans we were getting in the Ivalice NPC info-dump, and they only mentioned the difference in skin color.
I'm personally really torn about Feol. On one hand I have a kitty boy I'd fantasia into a bunny boy in a heartbeat if we got Feol bunnies and the males were small like the females. On the other hand, do we really need a third femMiqo/femAuRa clone... unless, of course, they manage to stray for that, in which case, welcome. But I don't see that happening for a variety of reasons, not the least of which being the extra workload. Palette swap is by far the easiest to pull off.

[Alleo]

I don't want a slender twink bunny man, I want them to actually resemble men. Please either offer a variety or make them look different compared to the slender female.

So someone is only a man if they are not slender? I mean what exactly is not man enough about Omega M?

Edit: The best they could do imo is making the two clans different for the males. Have one clan with more muscle and the other one more slender. (Exactly how I wanted the Au Ra to be...one small and slender, the other more buff since the women are warriors..)

The same with Hrothgar women. (The Ronso slender form and the really buff Hrothgar one)

In the end I find it really funny how people attacked others on this forum for wanting a more slender type and yet it seems that this is also the ones that the JP players wants (and they even go way more into this since that one picture really looks like a child..)

[Senn]

So someone is only a man if they are not slender? I mean what exactly is not man enough about Omega M?

I really don't get why some people want buff male viera when we already have highlander, au ra, roegadyn, and now hrothgar. And we already have characters with wide torsos as well like midlander and even miqo'te. I really just don't get it. There are plenty of other people who want small viera, too. I honestly think the best way to please both groups would be to have an omega m body type because it's the best compromise.

When you ask for buff viera, you alienate the people who want smaller viera, and when you ask for small viera, you do the same to the people who want them buff. So instead of asking for buff or small, why not go with the best in-between option that'll have the most people satisfied? I genuinely don't think people will be so disappointed if we got omega m's body type for male viera.

Instead of fighting over big or small, we should all collectively support this body type. I really think it should be in the OP front and center, because I think it's a body type most people can get behind. A lot of the people in this thread seem to like omega m's body type, and it seems like this body type has good reception in the japanese forums too.

[LumosDraconis]

Adding my "yes please" to this thread too! Male Viera that basically go off male Elezen models (but more proportional pls) with rabbit ears = gr8. Masculine yet beautiful, yanno?

[Alleo]

I agree with you Senn. Heck now with the male Hrothgar people have just another really buff race...so honestly those that want those kind of races have more than enough to chose from imo.

Also about the OP post: I believe that maybe you should just leave Omega M, the other slender one, the official art work and maybe that one really liked picture in it. That should be more than enough. Otherwise it imo really gets too big.

[Senn]

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How's that?

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going to sleep now, be back later

[BillyKaplan]

I really don't get why some people want buff male viera when we already have highlander, au ra, roegadyn, and now hrothgar.

Because saying either of those would scratch the same itch as a buff male Viera is being really reductive in what races offer. It's focusing on the one aspect of them and ignoring the overall package. The aesthetics themselves overall are different, before we get into the animations and mannerism, and of course, for those of us who care for that sort of thing, attached lore.
It's part of why when I made one of my alts, I wanted her to be a fem Au Ra but ended up going with a fem Miqo'te. They both fit the niche of petite waifus but they're not interchangeable. Playing one is a vastly different experience to playing the other.

When you ask for buff viera, you alienate the people who want smaller viera, and when you ask for small viera, you do the same to the people who want them buff. So instead of asking for buff or small, why not go with the best in-between option that'll have the most people satisfied? I genuinely don't think people will be so disappointed if we got omega m's body type for male viera

People who want Feol would not be happy with Omega M. People who want buffier Viera would not be happy with Omega M. I mean if that's what we ended up getting I'd still play it and break that muscle slider on max, but I care very little for the aesthetic of a male Elezen, and if they replicate it into male Viera it would dampen some of my enjoyment of the race.
They won't be able to please everyone, they know that. The very idea of a 'compromise' means that if people will be ok with it, they won't be as satisfied as they could've been with anything else. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Instead of fighting over big or small, we should all collectively support this body type.

Your bias is showing. If anything, so far I've seen more support for the artworks that showecased beefier bunnies. All we can do is each show support for what we prefer, and let the devs decide which to go with.

I really think it should be in the OP front and center, because I think it's a body type most people can get behind. A lot of the people in this thread seem to like omega m's body type, and it seems like this body type has good reception in the japanese forums too.

As was brought up in the thread before, this is a thread first and foremost about the inclusion of male Viera in the game, period. You should not show preference for any specific design in the op, both because it would show an inaccurate image of what people in the thread feel like to the devs, as well as perhaps ward away people who want to support male Viera, but "not like that"

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going to sleep now, be back later

Hey no come back here, that's not fair!

[xbahax92]

Your bias is showing. If anything, so far I've seen more support for the artworks that showecased beefier bunnies. All we can do is each show support for what we prefer, and let the devs decide which to go with.

I do have my preferences too and would like Viera to be certain type, but I dont think (speaking in general) that the pro-male Viera hast to start fighting each other. Everyone wants Viera to be a certain way, even the JP community has different opinions on this matter. If male buns would really end up bulky as you said, I wouldnt call them elegant or slim (Yoshi's statement).
Beside if the larger community thinks about bulky male Viera, I doubt anyone would call them sexist? This whole debacle only happened because they think the dev team is against feminine/beautiful/bishounen males?

I can only speak for myself, but if mViera truly end up beefcakes, I wont touch them. But I still would not support genderlocks.