Shadowbringers and Jobs

[waifugenerator]

I'm curious how that'll be handled too. I wonder what a Red Mage on the First would be... Maybe Oracle in reference to the fact in its infancy RDM couls conceptually have been a healer called "Oracle"?

Given the other jobs using the names of their respective FFIII upgrades (Magus, Devout, etc) I'm assuming that Red Mage would be called Sage.

[Bonbori]

I recently replayed the WoD part of the MSQ on an alt and I thought it was nice touch that all the WoDs had different names for their jobs. But it wasn't until the JP fanfest that I realised... OH! Of COURSE they would! That suddenly makes so much sense...

I wonder, did they think of that all the way back in HW, probably before going to the First was even planned, or was that just a happy coincidence and they decided that everything on the First should be named differently based on how WoDs were set up? We may never know, but I'm sure they'd like to say it was the former either way XD

For reference, here are the First analogues I remember:

J'rhoomale: Bard -> Ranger
Naillebert: Black Mage -> Magus
Lamimi: White Mage -> Devout
Blanhaerz: Paladin -> Knight
Arbert: Warrior -> ...Warrior

I guess Arbert's job is never brought up, and I assume the "Warrior" is of Darkness, but I guess the First could have their own version of the Warrior tradition, or maybe even their version of Warriors that have nothing to do with Roegadyn tribal stuff.

Magus and Devout are interesting because while they use black and white magic respectively, they probably never had a War of the Magi, so perhaps on the First, those two disciplines aren't as reviled and rare as they are on the Source? The names "Magus" and "Devout" sound to me as though those jobs are a lot more... formalised, I guess? On the Source, we call Black Mages and White Mages that because they're primarily known for the magic they wield, but their First analogues sound like their respective traditions encompass additional elements. I wouldn't be surprised if Devout had some religious themes and Magus had a more scholarly bent.

Knight is probably easy to explain. On the Source, Paladins are more or less an Ul'dahn phenomenon. Even in the same world, they exist alongside Knights in other regions such as Ishgard.

Now, about Ranger... I don't actually have any theories regarding the job. What intrigues me a lot more is J'rhoomale herself. Or rather, her name.

On the Source, wasn't it until after the Fifth Calamity that Miqo'te started attaching Eorzean letters to their names to signify clans? We sorta-kinda know that as far back as the Allagan era, Seekers were still using names similar to Keepers ("Desh" being the one name we know), then they seemed to be gone from Eorzea entirely until they migrated back during the Age of Endless Frost, by which point the contemporary Eorzean civilisation had codified an alphabet whose letters coincided with the number of Seeker clans that existed at the time and each one took a unique letter. Or... so the books claim at least. To me it sounds logistically implausible but anyways, before I get off track...
Since the history of the First unfolded very differently, I wonder... did the Mystel just happen adopt the same naming convention for completely different reasons? Did similar events transpire that led to similar results? Ooooor... was that simply an oversight on the lore team's part? The devs were used to giving Seekers clan names and they did not at the time think of the implications?

Or option #4: are the Source's history books actually propagating a lie and Seeker clans acquired their clan names much earlier and/or for a much different reason, one that could have been feasibly mirrored by the Mystel on the First?

Dun dun DUNNNNN!

Nevermind, my conspiracy theory needs further research.

[Seraphor]

Dragoon, with no dragons as influence, could be Uhlan.

Asto? Time Mage, if they can't see the stars to draw from them, then they'd probably delve deeper into the time aspects. (Gravity 2? Haste?)

Rogues wouldn't have any eastern influence, so Thief?

Machinists with no Garlean Ceruleum would be Musketeers?

Red Mages could be Spell Fencers, given how the black/white magic colours aren't used, maybe the balance between them isn't as integral to their practices as the variety of spells they employ.

Summoner: Evoker
Scholar? Maybe the same?

Monk: Black Belt

Samurai: Ronin? How do you expkain the unavoidable easteen roots here?

[Rocl]

Or option #4: are the Source's history books actually propagating a lie and Seeker clans acquired their clan names much earlier and/or for a much different reason, one that could have been feasibly mirrored by the Mystel on the First?

Dun dun DUNNNNN!

On your musing regarding the names of Warriors of Darkness it's important to note the Encyclopedia Eorzea posits these aren't their true names (he really isn't named Arbert, etc) and that they simply adopted the names to blend into Eorzean society.

[Bonbori]

On your musing regarding the names of Warriors of Darkness it's important to note the Encyclopedia Eorzea posits these aren't their true names (he really isn't named Arbert, etc) and that they simply adopted the names to blend into Eorzean society.

Aaah! That makes a lot of sense. Thank you!

Okay, there goes my brilliant conspiracy theory. Back to the drawing board!

[Minerva-Redwater]

I'm curious how that'll be handled too. I wonder what a Red Mage on the First would be... Maybe Oracle in reference to the fact in its infancy RDM couls conceptually have been a healer called "Oracle"?

I'm so happy someone else has mentioned Oracle as it's not a popular job. I am for it being a potential healer. I've been wanting this for years as a healer and I think this would be a great opportunity for Oracle to shine.