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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't have any respect or care about Matsuno's backwards opinion. This is not his game.
    And you wonder why people stop listening or caring for your opinion?
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    Yoshi has literally explained exactly why they chose to do this though.

    They wanted to add in a more bestial race like the Ronso, but felt they had to put the Viera in because it was the most demanded race. As it was their 'last shot' at a new race, they wanted to cover as many options as possible, and used the Viera lore as an excuse to not give them males.

    And as I've said before, this is probably the best result for players as well.
    It's true that adding two 'half' races is more work than simply adding in the other gender of an existing one, which means it'll be easier to add in male Viera and female Hrothgar down the line, than it would be to add another entirely new race, making it more likely to happen.
    If we had just got male and female Viera and no Hrothgar, we'd likely never see Hrothgar, or vis versa.

    But that's only going to happen if people keep politely requesting it, accusations of sexism aren't going to get you anywhere.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Yoshi has literally explained exactly why they chose to do this though.

    They wanted to add in a more bestial race like the Ronso, but felt they had to put the Viera in because it was the most demanded race.
    in another timeline we got a bestial viera race w two genders
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    in another timeline we got a bestial viera race w two genders
    Pleasing even less people...
    "These aren't real Viera!"
    "I wanted to play a Ronso not a giant rabbit!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Pleasing even less people...
    "These aren't real Viera!"
    "I wanted to play a Ronso not a giant rabbit!"
    Hard to say. There were not any hints about Ronsos so people where actually susprised. And because they promised back in 1.0 to not repeat gender-lock, a lot of those, who asked for Vieras, actually really waited to see males as well.
    Still, with what you are really right, in case if they would add one full race, there is almost a zero chance to see another one in future. So with creating this situation they kept a big window for themself. Not to mention that optimizing armor for missing genders will be easier when they know already how to do it based on expirience with female Vieras and male Hrothgars (because their counterparts likely will be similar to them in proportions). And Yoshida sounded in his interviews like they want to complete them, just can't promise anything right now because of resources.
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    I'm curious about the general feedback if the devs had decided to add Ananta as a playable race. They would obviously be genderlocked because of lore.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't have any respect or care about Matsuno's backwards opinion. This is not his game.
    I couldn't help but laugh at this comment. You don't care about his backwards opinion but you're crying over his creation lol.
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  9. #68
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    His design choices are fine. You're the one thinking backwards. You're upset about someone else's artistic decisions and throwing a tantrum.

    Nobody complained about this in Mass Effect with the female only Asari (https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Asari) who were only feminine.

    It's all well and good that you're dismissing the original creator's wishes, having stated you don't care about him... but I doubt anyone at SE or Matsuno himself give a darn about what some overzealous sniveling child on the English forums of FFXIV cares.

    Really, lady, just grow up.
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  10. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshal View Post
    His design choices are fine. You're the one thinking backwards. You're upset about someone else's artistic decisions and throwing a tantrum.

    Nobody complained about this in Mass Effect with the female only Asari (https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Asari) who were only feminine.

    It's all well and good that you're dismissing the original creator's wishes, having stated you don't care about him... but I doubt anyone at SE or Matsuno himself give a darn about what some overzealous sniveling child on the English forums of FFXIV cares.

    Really, lady, just grow up.
    Matsuno was not responsible for male viera not being added and doesn't seem opposed to the idea, that being said he seems to envision them as being muscular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't have any respect or care about Matsuno's backwards opinion. This is not his game.
    Didn't even know what to say about this nonsense... i didn't saw such a respectless comment in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    we pay we say. we say we want male viera and female hrothgar.
    Ouh Dude, i don't know if you know this, but it's not that easy in the real World.
    You pay to get the allowance to enter the Servers and play the Game, nothing more.
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