Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Karious]

Gonna have to say I have no interest in Male Viera or Female Hrothgar, and I find the demands of entitled players to be horribly bad taste. Citing 'it's the current year and gender doesn't exist so give us both genders or we will harass you until you do it' seems to be pretty petty.

I am a 1.0 player, and I don't really seem to recall anyone getting angry over Female Roe's or male Miqo'te not being included back then. It was a carry over from FFXI and I was fine with it.

Claiming that the dev team is somehow homophobic and sexist is probably the most laughable thing I've ever read. Pretty sure that same sex marriage is in the game, as well as plenty of strong independent women who are breaking stereotypes.

General consensus from what I've seen is everyone wants them to be small petite bunny boys. .. And we all know they'll probably be used nefariously by Balmung.

If they ever add them, I am sure they'll be tall and muscular and everyone will be angry about gender stereotypes and blah blah blah. The level of entitlement is off the charts, given that the amount of likes / views / replies this thread has gotten is nearly nowhere indicative of the entire population of the game, and most people I have spoken to outside of this forum, or reddit, have no desire for rabbits.

Seems like another victim of the outrage culture. "Please make this game inclusive." And then when the Devs do, the people pushing inclusivity don't even play the game.

So yeah, whatever, be mad. I'll be over here enjoying Gunbreaker and hanging out with big cat boys and rabbit girls. More for me.

[BillyKaplan]

I am a 1.0 player, and I don't really seem to recall anyone getting angry over Female Roe's or male Miqo'te not being included back then. It was a carry over from FFXI and I was fine with it.

Given your join date is now, I'm not surprised you missed this:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...emale-Roegadyn
People were angry about it then, and they're angry and disappointed with it now

[MrKimper]

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Well firstly.

People who claim homophobia and sexism are in my opinion wrong. However it's concerning that after 2 expansions the dev team still seems to be struggling with optimizing their workflow and being understaffed, there SHOULD be a a system in place to deal easily with gear bloat and it's effect on modeling.

My issue is less with the dev team and more with the fact that this game seems to get little to no support from Square compared to games like KH 3 and XV both that despite being financial successes, had varying degrees of quality in their completion and had DLC planned for them to fix glaring issues of incompleteness or confusion with the story. Square should be allocating more resources and staff to this game outside of the fan festival, I know people are going to cite nomura working on Eden or the other guest collaborators as examples but, still those aren't new core additions to the staff at hand.

There are also other glaring issues with XIV's core code and backend problems that just have not been addressed despite us again going through 2 expansions.

Besides that the rest of your post is anecdotal and just sort of shows you haven't really read many of the responses in this thread.

[Duskane]

1.0 player without legacy goobbue or chocobo

[Lacan]

Gonna have to say I have no interest in Male Viera or Female Hrothgar, and I find the demands of entitled players to be horribly bad taste. Citing 'it's the current year and gender doesn't exist so give us both genders or we will harass you until you do it' seems to be pretty petty.

I am a 1.0 player, and I don't really seem to recall anyone getting angry over Female Roe's or male Miqo'te not being included back then. It was a carry over from FFXI and I was fine with it.

Claiming that the dev team is somehow homophobic and sexist is probably the most laughable thing I've ever read. Pretty sure that same sex marriage is in the game, as well as plenty of strong independent women who are breaking stereotypes.

General consensus from what I've seen is everyone wants them to be small petite bunny boys. .. And we all know they'll probably be used nefariously by Balmung.

If they ever add them, I am sure they'll be tall and muscular and everyone will be angry about gender stereotypes and blah blah blah. The level of entitlement is off the charts, given that the amount of likes / views / replies this thread has gotten is nearly nowhere indicative of the entire population of the game, and most people I have spoken to outside of this forum, or reddit, have no desire for rabbits.

Seems like another victim of the outrage culture. "Please make this game inclusive." And then when the Devs do, the people pushing inclusivity don't even play the game.

So yeah, whatever, be mad. I'll be over here enjoying Gunbreaker and hanging out with big cat boys and rabbit girls. More for me.

How do you think male miqote and female roegadyn got added to the game? Do you think SE just added them out of the blue with no one asking for them?

For someone claiming everyone else to be "mad", your post seems awfully bitter compared to the general positivity going on in the thread.

[Karious]

Given your join date is now, I'm not surprised you missed this:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...emale-Roegadyn
People were angry about it then, and they're angry and disappointed with it now

Considering I've never touched these forums until people started screeching about how they are being personally wronged by this whole ordeal, I figured it was time to actually register for the forums. I'll definitely take a look at the linked thread, but I sure as heck don't remember anyone complaining in-game back in the day.

If they add these two genders eventually, sure, great. However, if we end up missing out on potential content because people couldn't stop harassing the Dev team, I would be pretty annoyed. I'd rather have content and stuff to do, than a Viera guy to oogle at.

[MrKimper]

Considering I've never touched these forums until people started screeching about how they are being personally wronged by this whole ordeal, I figured it was time to actually register for the forums. I'll definitely take a look at the linked thread, but I sure as heck don't remember anyone complaining in-game back in the day.

If they add these two genders eventually, sure, great. However, if we end up missing out on potential content because people couldn't stop harassing the Dev team, I would be pretty annoyed. I'd rather have content and stuff to do, than a Viera guy to oogle at.

No one is harassing the dev team, and why people assume making race models take up time for new content most likely already in development as if the Dev team just stops what their doing to work on new content one at a time, is utterly beyond me. Also keep in mind Eureka was delayed by a patch if I recall, so content being late is nothing new that would break the community.

[BillyKaplan]

My issue is less with the dev team and more with the fact that this game seems to get little to no support from Square compared to games like KH 3 and XV both that despite being financial successes, had varying degrees of quality in their completion and had DLC planned for them to fix glaring issues of incompleteness or confusion with the story. Square should be allocating more resources and staff to this game outside of the fan festival, I know people are going to cite nomura working on Eden or the other guest collaborators as examples but, still those aren't new core additions to the staff at hand.

Sadly XIV suffers from that too, as a lot of story elements make it into the stories they release on the lodestone. I recently found out Fordola's story continued in one of the Tales of the Storm chapters...

If they add these two genders eventually, sure, great. However, if we end up missing out on potential content because people couldn't stop harassing the Dev team, I would be pretty annoyed.

People keep bringing that up but what content would that even be? And when answering, take into consideration that the developers who would be in charge of making the new models and animations (the bulk of the work, imo) are likely mutually exclusive to many other endeavors such as battle and content design.
Personally, if what it ends up chewing resources from is BLU and Eureka, I really wouldn't mind, and I'm sure there are others who would share that sentiment (even if not regarding those particular bits of content).

[Karious]

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It might surprise you, but there is such a thing as losing access to an email account tied to a Square Enix account from almost a decade ago. My current account is through steam, unfortunately.

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Between here in the forums, Reddit, and Tumblr, I have seen a lot of salt thrown at the dev team. While it is not the majority, it is roughly 30 to 40 percent of posts filled with such vitriol that makes me dismay for the games community. I love this game, and I appreciate everything that they're attempting to do for us. (Though, I do hope their healer rework actually goes somewhere constructive.)

I do apologize for coming off initially hostile about this situation, but after reading pages of nothing but "ADD THIS OR I QUIT OR WILL BRING IT UP EVERY LIVE LETTER" kinda does grate on you after a while. If the more vocal members of this forum would chill the heck out, it'd probably be more constructive.

[BillyKaplan]

I do apologize for coming off initially hostile about this situation, but after reading pages of nothing but "ADD THIS OR I QUIT OR WILL BRING IT UP EVERY LIVE LETTER" kinda does grate on you after a while. If the more vocal members of this forum would chill the heck out, it'd probably be more constructive.

Telling the devs people will quit over this is constructive, assuming some of them actually go through with it.