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  1. #211
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    i don't think female au ra look younger than alisaie at all, they look a bit innocent, but nowhere as childish as her.
    also i don't understand why people want a small thin male viera. male miqo'tes are already cute, small (second smaller race after lalas) and thin. why want the exact same thing all over again? i've always pictured viera as long athletic and slender, like most of the artowrks of them, males and females.
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  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormygabe View Post
    I think this is a point people forget. Also, isn't it a thing in a lot of eastern animated media where you'd have a guy who was like 20 or 30 something but drawn looking like he was 16? (Think Captain Levi.) And also, aren't there irl dudes who look younger? (I'm going on 27 and still get carded. I have a friend who's 30 and also still gets carded. Another guy I used to work with was also pushing 30 and legit looked like a kid.)
    I get carded too! I'm also much smaller than the average for my age. BUT there is a HUGE difference between a young man and a child.

    Levi is a handsome young man! just because he is small, doesn't make him look like a child. I would love a race with the bodytype of levi! Why not?

    Levi and alphinaud look sooo similar. Yep sure, totally "comparable"



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  3. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    Female au ra that look younger than Alisaie: Perfectly ok
    Male viera that look like Alphinaud: Moral crisis

    Get over yourselves. If Alphinaud looked exactly the same but was introduced as 18 you wouldn't think twice about it.
    If he would be introduced as an 18 years old or older, they would've designed him to look more mature from the beginning on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    Female au ra that look younger than Alisaie: Perfectly ok
    Male viera that look like Alphinaud: Moral crisis

    Get over yourselves. If Alphinaud looked exactly the same but was introduced as 18 you wouldn't think twice about it.
    Yes, I would, because he would still look underage.
    Heck, he doesn't even look 16 to me, to be perfectly honest with you.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by username1234 View Post
    Female au ra that look younger than Alisaie: Perfectly ok
    Male viera that look like Alphinaud: Moral crisis

    Get over yourselves. If Alphinaud looked exactly the same but was introduced as 18 you wouldn't think twice about it.
    Wouldn't matter; other young elves share his body model still. He's not the only one using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    I get carded too! I'm also much smaller than the average for my age. BUT there is a HUGE difference between a young man and a child.

    Levi is a handsome young man! just because he is small, doesn't make him look like a child. I would love a race with the bodytype of levi! Why not?

    Levi and alphinaud look sooo similar. Yep sure, totally "comparable"



    I mean....that still doesn't refute the original comment I replied to. Alphinaud could have been written as a 20-year-old for crying out loud. In either case, I'm not too keen on having a short character myself, as I'm more or less average height. Also, Levi could have been written as a teenager. There are anime characters who are teens but look old enough to be his father. Would we have an issue with people wanting to look like them too?
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  7. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormygabe View Post
    I mean....that still doesn't refute the original comment I replied to. Alphinaud could have been written as a 20-year-old for crying out loud. In either case, I'm not too keen on having a short character myself, as I'm more or less average height myself. Also, Levi could have been written as a teenager. There are anime characters who are teens but look old enough to be his father. Would we have an issue with people wanting to look like them too?
    It seems kind of moot anyway, as Yoshida just confirmed how they would most likely look in an interview today. Slim, Elegant and Handsome - like the elven race with bunny ears. Most likely they'll be using the adult elf model to adapt from.
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  8. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormygabe View Post
    I mean....that still doesn't refute the original comment I replied to. Alphinaud could have been written as a 20-year-old for crying out loud. In either case, I'm not too keen on having a short character myself, as I'm more or less average height myself. Also, Levi could have been written as a teenager. There are anime characters who are teens but look old enough to be his father. Would we have an issue with people wanting to look like them too?
    The issue with comparing this to anime is that it is extremely polarizing on the looks. In -most- anime, people look like they're in their late teens until they suddenly look like they're 60+. it's not really a good base of comparison based on, say, something that is 3D and more detailed. FFXIV has an 'animeish look' but it's nowhere near as polarized.

    And no. Alphinaud does not look like he could pass as 20. When I saw him and his sister the very first time, I said '13 at oldest'. When they said he was 16 I literally snorted thinking 'yeah, no way'. They haven't changed at all, save for new VA's.

    Anyone I introduce to the game, too, asks 'who are these two infants/children/other synonyms for very young people?'

    He does not look 20. Not even close. And almost anyone who first sees him does not even guess 16. Most guess even younger.

    Also, I get carded all the time as well despite being well over 18. I 'look young' and I definitely don't want an avatar to 'represent that' in game. I get enough people creepin' as it is.
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    Last edited by Atreyu; 03-28-2019 at 09:17 AM.

  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    It seems kind of moot anyway, as Yoshida just confirmed how they would most likely look in an interview today. Slim, Elegant and Handsome - like the elven race with bunny ears. Most likely they'll be using the adult elf model to adapt from.
    Wait s new interview is out? Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Wait s new interview is out? Link?
    Was linked earlier, yes.

    https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...r-trust-system

    Yoshida: With FF12, there are only female Viera appearing in the game. Due to that, we have no design references for the male versions. If we did create a male design for the Viera, he would be quite elegant, handsome, and slim. He would look more like the Elezen race, but with bunny ears.
    And thank the gods for that.
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