Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

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Finally I can post again...
I think the omega M body type would work very well for male viera. Slim, shorter than the females, and very cool looking.This body type is a bit androgynous, and would fit the lore well. The lore says male and female viera cannot be told apart until puberty, so I imagine even in adulthood, the men and women still look similar - it's just now you can tell who is male and female.
I posted this idea to the japanese forum to see what they think as well.

[LittleChickenNugget]

Finally I can post again...
I think the omega M body type would work very well for male viera. Slim, shorter than the females, and very cool looking.This body type is a bit androgynous, and would fit the lore well. The lore says male and female viera cannot be told apart until puberty, so I imagine even in adulthood, the men and women still look similar - it's just now you can tell who is male and female.
I posted this idea to the japanese forum to see what they think as well.

How come when it comes to the lore, it doesn't work when they say only female Viera are only seen? When the lore states that no one has ever seen the male Viera, it's nonsense and just an excuse. But when the lore says they look the same until the age of 13, they're suddenly destined to be twinky, feminine boys? You can't pick and choose which pieces of the lore to follow to fit your agendas.

Oh gosh and let me be clear before someone rams this one down my throat. I don't mean the "Gay Agenda". I mean the overall agenda towards the desired appearance of the male Viera.

I'm pretty sure part of the reason Yoshi P said that at fanfest is because of the limited resources and time in creating male viera.

So he makes lore but again, because it doesn't fit your narrative, there are even more excuses and reasons as to why this new lore for his game is in place. But any other lore can be changed willy nilly, that's fine. As long as it suits your needs. Sheesh I can't with you guys sometimes.

[Senn]

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I'm pretty sure part of the reason Yoshi P said that at fanfest is because of the limited resources and time in creating male viera. Furthermore, that bit of the lore can change due to the progression of the story, and the fact that the WoL is a unique person. However, the lore on viera's biology cannot be changed any longer.

[Robert_Ilcri]

I'm pretty sure part of the reason Yoshi P said that at fanfest is because of the limited resources and time in creating male viera. Furthermore, that bit of the lore can change due to the progression of the story, and the fact that the WoL is a unique person. However, the lore on viera's biology cannot be changed any longer.

It was more that Hrothgar was the already planned race but since people had been so desperate for Viera especially with Fran showing up, they decided they should add it. Hence the choice between either the female viera, or female hrothgar according to that interview. At the race's conception, males weren't even on the table. Will they stay locked? Doubtful, but I don't see them being added till mid Shadowbringers, or even until 6.0.

[Senn]

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I do not believe they decided to add viera between the time Fran appeared and now. That time frame seems too short to develop something like a race. I believe they decided to add viera the same time they were thinking of adding hrothgar. Of course, for sure they wanted to add hrothgar, but the problem was whether they should add female hrothgar, or female viera. They knew players were requesting viera for a long time, so they scrapped female hrothgar.

I do agree with you that hrothgar was the race SE really wanted to add, but viera and hrothgar were most likely talked about and planned near the same time.

[Robert_Ilcri]

I do not believe they decided to add viera between the time Fran appeared and now. That time frame seems too short to develop something like a race. I believe they decided to add viera the same time they were thinking of adding hrothgar. Of course, for sure they wanted to add hrothgar, but the problem was whether they should add female hrothgar, or female viera. They knew players were requesting viera for a long time, so they scrapped female hrothgar.

I do agree with you that hrothgar was the race SE really wanted to add, but viera and hrothgar were most likely talked about and planned near the same time.

Oh I know, it was stated in the interview that is basically what it was. The mention of Fran was that her showing up caused even more of a frenzy for them, which is probably why they got shown first at Paris since they had to have models ready for Fran hence they held Hrothgar back to do them first, my bad on the unclear description. Again, come likely 6.0 the other halves of the races will be added so people just need to bide their time and let the devs do their thing really.

[Senn]

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Oh, I can definitely agree that's why they chose to show viera at Paris fanfest first lol

[Halivel]

It was more that Hrothgar was the already planned race but since people had been so desperate for Viera especially with Fran showing up, they decided they should add it. Hence the choice between either the female viera, or female hrothgar according to that interview. At the race's conception, males weren't even on the table. Will they stay locked? Doubtful, but I don't see them being added till mid Shadowbringers, or even until 6.0.

Yoshida actually said that they considered males but there were some problems ("Since we didn't see them earlier, it's up to our fantasy. How should we represent them? Elezens with Miqo'te faces, maybe..?") and in comparison with Ronsos, who were decided to be released anyway (and had full representation in FF10 already), it was more serious amount of work. And since working on two full races in one expansion is... just "no", splitting things in the way how they did it was more reasonable.

[Senn]

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And this all probably works in our favor, since we'll probably get male viera and female hrothgar in the future. If we had only gotten one race with both genders, we may have never gotten anything after that.

[Senn]

So he makes lore but again, because it doesn't fit your narrative, there are even more excuses and reasons as to why this new lore for his game is in place. But any other lore can be changed willy nilly, that's fine. As long as it suits your needs. Sheesh I can't with you guys sometimes.

I think you are being uncharitable in your response. Although it is established male viera stay hidden, there are plenty of ways the story can lead to a male viera showing up. Viera biology is established as well, but that is one thing that cannot be changed.