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  1. #81
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    It's funny how when a bunch of people positively advocate for something in North America, there is always a little knee-jerk reaction against it.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    What about the people asking in a civil manner though? We just gonna keep ignoring them to continue on with this narrative? O-oh we are? Rad.
    Honestly, I feel like people like that take the few who are actually being caustic and inflate them to include the entire group. They kinda sound like those people who, as an example, accuse someone of being overly sensitive when they try applying a certain type of critique to a certain type of entertainment. I also think it's interesting considering a vast majority of people asking for a stop to the gender locks are doing so in an amicable way. But what can ya do... I guess we're all just a bunch of crybaby SJW whiners.

    Keep calling for gender unlocks folks! We won't get them without trying!
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  3. #83
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    As for the topic, I agree. It makes the most sense to do things this way when you think about how things are...

    It feels like people have gone into such a tizzy they have forgotten basic reading comprehension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    Well too bad for you that now they're asking for feedback and reconsidering their mistake about being sexist
    I'm gonna disregard this foolish sexism bit.

    They have said several times that with their current work flow this ... is it. This is as many races they can handle and still get everything done as fast as they have been. A lot of work goes into not only design and development of a race but also going back and readjusting all gear they can use to fit them ... and it doesn't stop there. They also have to factor in all future gear and animations and such seeing as everything going forward has to have support for that race to. The game is much bigger than it was when it became ARR, as things are added it becomes much harder to support the added strain of introducing new races.

    So no, them politely saying they will "look at feed back" doesn't change that fact. They may never say NO out right but that doesn't mean you're gonna see them pop up in 6.0 or ever really.
    I personally don't really foresee them changing it. They have had it hard getting ready for this new Expansion and I feel it shows in the game.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 03-27-2019 at 01:39 PM.

  4. #84
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    Sooo...an echochamber then?
    They can come into the positive threads and be negative like "unsub lol" and "male bunnies gross and don't follow lore", but we can't touch their threads. No no no. Can't have that.

    On topic though, I disagree. I respect the work it takes to make a new race and do not expect the other genders any time soon, but I would like to see them.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by niteypants View Post
    It's funny how when a bunch of people positively advocate for something in North America, there is always a little knee-jerk reaction against it.
    it's because they feel like the sunken cost fallacy they've integrated into their feelings toward the game are being attacked and need to be defended. see: blizzard bootlickers when bfa launched and it was just a big dumpster fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    mistake about being sexist
    How is making gender locked races sexist?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    So no, them politely saying they will "look at feed back" doesn't change that fact. They may never say NO out right but that doesn't mean you're gonna see them pop up in 6.0 or ever really.
    I personally don't really foresee them changing it. They have had it hard getting ready for this new Expansion and I feel it shows in the game.
    This is true. Still, it does not forbid people to ask them about this and maybe see the change in future. In polite way without weird arguments, of course (quite small amount of people overreact in their request anyway).

    Back in start of 4.0 some my acquaintances talked about possible implementing of Viera and I personally was like "uhm no, too much work and the lore is quite against" and it was not only my opinion and well... here we are. Vieras were a thing for few years, this is a result. If implementing missing genders going to be a thing for a long time too - they really can reconsider it. The problem in this case will be resources... adding new race now for 5.0 is hard already (8000+ armor items). In 6.0 and later it's going to be only worse, so they should be absolutely sure that it's worth (which most likely will be worth in case with Vieras, but I can't say anything about Ronso. I would like to create female alt cause I usually play beast races in games, but well, it's me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    The problem in this case will be resources... adding new race now for 5.0 is hard already (8000+ armor items). In 6.0 and later it's going to be only worse, so they should be absolutely sure that it's worth (which most likely will be worth in case with Vieras, but I can't say anything about Ronso. I would like to create female alt cause I usually play beast races in games, but well, it's me).
    In my opinion, they should get started on making male viera and female hrothgar as soon as they can for this very reason. It's not because I'm impatient. I'm actually a pretty patient guy. However, their workload will only get worse the more gear comes out. I think in this stage, they are looking at feedback and considering whether to implement these two genders. Perhaps I'm going to sound optimistic, but I'm going to guess their response to unlocking the genders will be affirmative, even if they won't officially announce it.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    Again, what about the people asking in a civil manner though? We just gonna keep ignoring them to continue on with this narrative some of you keep throwing around? O-oh we are? Rad.
    When you have one group screaming loudly and making a scene, they tend to drown out the rest of them. You always notice and remember the loud ones.
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    Last edited by LittleChickenNugget; 03-27-2019 at 02:42 PM.

  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    When you have one group screaming loudly and making a scene, they tend to drown out the rest of them. You always notice and remember the loud ones.
    Here's an example of a civil one that drowned

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmurise-thread.
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