I would like to show my support for the Devs and the gender-lock of the new races.

[Valor_C]

Isn't there already a thread that's related to supporting male Viera? Perhaps those in favor should go there and let those who enjoy things how they currently are stay here.

NO !!! because the things have to go like they want, they need to make their point wherever they can, YOU have to accept their opinion and they need to say their opinion as often as they can until you surrender to their will... sounds a bit over the top, but thats what its sometimes looks like.

[Galaktica]

Isn't there already a thread that's related to supporting male Viera? Perhaps those in favor should go there and let those who enjoy things how they currently are stay here.

Sooo...an echochamber then?

[Lacan]

Right. Because females wearing pants are totally pushing an "equality" agenda. Try not to pass out. That's a lot of breath you're going to be spending.

You say that like equality is a bad thing though. What is wrong with people wanting equal options with the new races? You might not care about male viera personally but others do. Telling them to just play as a female viera instead is just being callous about it. And putting the male viera aside, the genderlocks cause issues with hrothgar as well. Female ronso were a thing in FF X. They weren't even rare. You could get them on your blitzball team... it makes absolutely no sense for them to be genderlocked in XIV.

Shouldn't you be out trying to make gay eternal bondings illegal in Eorzea or something? :v If you're going to try and be the conservative voice of reason for XIV you've got a lot of work cut out for you. There's a lot of equality to try and get reversed.

[grinkdaboy]

i don't harbor any ill will towards yoship or any of the development staff. only minor irritation and confusion

[Kyuuen]

NO !!! because the things have to go like they want, they need to make their point wherever they can, YOU have to accept their opinion and they need to say their opinion as often as they can until you surrender to their will... sounds a bit over the top, but thats what its sometimes looks like.

An open forum is just that, an open forum. Echo chambers have no place in them, if you post a thread and as long as the poster remains within scope of the topic they have every right to share their thoughts and views, even if it's against the idea of that topic.

[silentwindfr]

I respect their decision and I wouldn't want to add more strain on the dev team to painstakingly make the other genders and possibly have to reconsider NPC storylines and everything else that goes along with it. So far I've mainly seen people upset about male Viera anyways. After the behavior of the community I hope you (the devs) stick to your guns and keep what you've already made. Don't reward bad behavior and make more work for yourselves.

I, for one, am super stoked that we get a real, beast-looking race (Hrothgar) as the other "beast races" have basically been: generic human with cat ears/tail or other generic human with horns/minor scales/tail.

honestly i thank you good sir to let the people that share the same opinion than you to have a place for talk of it... even if our opinion differ, i prefer that we have a civil debate about this situation and let everyone opinion been heard that censore or be uncivil with people with different opinion.

[CaptnYesterday]

100% support the devs decision even if they keep it this way. Screw the fake outrage and SJW cry-bullying.

DEVs, Don't acknowledge them. Even giving in will make it worse. Look at any person or company that apologize for a twitter comment that someone took offense to (and someone always does) and cried Sexist, Racist, bigot, etc. It makes it much worse. Ignore and it goes away faster than you'd ever believe. Like that crazy guy walking down the street yelling at himself. It doesn't matter what you say, but if you acknowledged him at all you will regret it. Cry-bullies are even worse.

[reivaxe]

I dunno if I would in every case. Though if we're going with one gender only races the Qu would be awesome!

Currently the number of players playing male Miqote actively is more than double the number of players playing the entire Roe race. This clearly shows more demand for humans with animal ears than buff races. Male Au Ra, the most beastial race/gender combo at the moment has just over half the number of male Miqote players.

Even if it weren't Viera which has decades long history, and say some other generic human with animal ears race, if more people would enjoy playing it than a seperate mono-gender race, then even if its boring lore wise it's the right decision to me.

That all said I'm not unhappy with Hrothgar, they look awesome. I just am not optimistic about the number of people who will play them.

I just wanted to clear up some stats here. Gonna use my post from the Mr. Happy Thread ...

"People who play males in this game have shown to be far more open and willing to playing characters that differ from the default human body. As of now the males from all the races are played far far more evenly than females. Yes, the most popular male race is Human and they're played 4 times more often than Roebros. But the most played female race (Cats) out number the least played Female race (Femroes) 17 times over. Hell, Roebros are played more than the 2 least played female races (Elezen and Femroe) and aren't that far from being played more than those 2 combined. Against other males the Roebros are only out numbered by the next lowest (Elezen) by 4k.


Like the Scaly Bois this beastly race is being added to fill a large void. I can easily see people who settled on Cat Bois but want to be more beefy and anthropomorphic converting. I already see people on my FF14 FB group saying they're leaving their Cat Bois to become Panther Men. I can see people who want to be werewolves converting for the wolf head they talked about. I can see people who want a race that's taller and more fit than the current 2 converting.

Personally I think they're gonna land between Roebros and Scaly Bois in popularity. "

So yeah, the thing is that Roebros arnt's really the be all end all of "Buff big race". They have very long arms, short legs and a "rectangle of meat" as a general body shape. So there's more than enough room for a tall race with a more appealing body shape.

[Galaktica]

100% support the devs decision even if they keep it this way. Screw the fake outrage and SJW cry-bullying.

DEVs, Don't acknowledge them. Even giving in will make it worse. Look at any person or company that apologize for a twitter comment that someone took offense to (and someone always does) and cried Sexist, Racist, bigot, etc. It makes it much worse. Ignore and it goes away faster than you'd ever believe. Like that crazy guy walking down the street yelling at himself. It doesn't matter what you say, but if you acknowledged him at all you will regret it. Cry-bullies are even worse.

Again, what about the people asking in a civil manner though? We just gonna keep ignoring them to continue on with this narrative some of you keep throwing around? O-oh we are? Rad.

[silentwindfr]

i want to add something about the fact that a lot of person play cat people... i'm an old player of FF11 i was playing mithra there, then when FF14 did come out (2009) i did choose miqo'te, sadly at this time it was not possible to create male.... then did play miqo'te female...when ARR did come out, they did offer to old player the capacity to change race and gender, the trouble is when i did create my character i did choose a female name. then i wasn't able to play miqo'te male... i did play for a time au ra female, but did come back to miqo'te because the horn was making most of my helmet color weird because of the white horn.
then i did come back to miqo'te female.

do i will change to viera... probably not, who know.... but i don't plan to purchase a name change for try another gender... and i think i'm not the only one in this situation.