Gender-locking isn't sexist

[Mikki]

I'm not saying it's sexist but lore is certainly a pretty sad excuse. If they felt justified to totally ignore the lore of Ronso which have tons of females in FFX and just rename the race and say "Oh but it's not really Ronso!" to suit their needs then why couldn't they have done that with Viera? Additionally, the lore pretty much is the same for the races that were originally genderlocked in 1.0 (male cats are suuuuper rare, in fact - moon keeper males are more rare than male viera) yet here we are. And as others have pointed out, they already changed some Ivalice lore so clearly they don't care that much about lore. It's an excuse - and a bad one at that.

[ashcrill]

Ok, perhaps *gender-locking* isn't sexist.
But only sexy women and muscular men are allowed,
When pretty man and beast-like woman are erased?
That's called sexism, as I recall.

[Zhamkyong]

Ok, perhaps *gender-locking* isn't sexist.
But only sexy women and muscular men are allowed,
When pretty man and beast-like woman are erased?
That's called sexism, as I recall.

When they showed the Au Ra female concept a lot of player were taken back because of the beast-like nature it had (or something among those lines, english it is not my first language, sorry). And it is known that most of female characters are indeed the Au Ra, Miqo'te... Cute races than Rhoe, to give an example. So i guess you can thank the playerbase of that.

Also, calling that sexist has the same value as calling the writer of The Witcher racist because of the racism the non human races suffer.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

The definition of sexism is anything that limits, or restricts a gender on the basis of gender roles.

Not letting us play female Hrothgar because they stay at home to protect the children is sexist.

Not letting us play male Viera because they are out in the woods doing stereotypical man stuff is sexist.

So it's sexist so what? Can we not have sexism in a reality word or racism or any other ism. One minute you complain of it being too unrealistic and then the next minute you guys complain its too realistic to real life. If we can't have it as lore then so be it it's their story to tell.

[Seraphor]

I actually think this is the best scenario we could have had, and I’ll explain why.

Adding races is extremely taxing on the dev team, I’m not going to explain why that is again, but it is and that’s a fact.
If we had only got Viera, male and female, then there’s almost no chance we would ever get another race, so we’d never get Hrothgar.
The same vis versa, they could have just given us Hrothgar…
However, by giving us one of each, they’ve not only given us greater variety between them now, but kindled a greater and more valid demand for their gender counterparts, making it more likely that they’ll be inclined to push their resources to make them happen at some point down the line.

In an effort to try and please more people with what they thought was their ‘last race’, they’ve actually put themselves in a position where they’re more likely to cave to demands to unlock the other genders.

[ashcrill]

When they showed the Au Ra female concept a lot of player were taken back because of the beast-like nature it had (or something among those lines, english it is not my first language, sorry). And it is known that most of female characters are indeed the Au Ra, Miqo'te... Cute races than Rhoe, to give an example. So i guess you can thank the playerbase of that.

I... honestly do not understand what you want to say. (sorry)
But why should I be grateful? For what? The two races that I wanted to do were all gone.

Yoshida said he did not add the male Viera because he wanted to make various races instead of the obvious stereotypes.
But we still got sexy girl. Only girl. Don't you feel the contradiction here?

[ChocoFeru]

Ok, perhaps *gender-locking* isn't sexist.
But only sexy women and muscular men are allowed,
When pretty man and beast-like woman are erased?
That's called sexism, as I recall.

Still not sexist. This is a fictional world, and the mean of it's existence isn't sexist.

If we get into the story and we talk from inside of it, then;

Vieras are a very reclusive race, so you gotta be thankful we have them around. Male Viera are even more reclusive that we didn't even see them in FFXII world.

You can call every female Miqo'te a SEXIST because they use males just for reproduction because there were few of them around.

You can call Ronso SEXIST because they don't let their women go out the cave.


And still, SE isn't sexist, because fictional stories have nothing to do with reality.

[ashcrill]

Still not sexist. This is a fictional world, and the mean of it's existence isn't sexist.

If we get into the story and we talk from inside of it, then;

I don't care about other games. I think we can make our own rules.

And What if there is no relation to reality?
I am tired of being forced to play only pretty and sexy girls, and that's real enough for me.

As Yoshida said himself, The various appearances are matters.
I just want him to keep his word.

[craybest]

sexism is defined by making stereotypes based on gender.
making 2 new races forcing you to either choose a sexy, skimpy clothed female, or a huge hunched beast male, IS sexist by definition. those 2 are gender stereotypes. and forcing you to only choose those (for the new races) is sexist. no other way to put it.

[Seraphor]

sexism is defined by making stereotypes based on gender.

Not quite.
Stereotypes based on gender are just stereotypes based on gender.
Sexism is discrimination based on gender stereotypes. Giving one gender an advantage over the other, or prohibiting one gender form doing something the other gender can.