MrHappy interview with yoshida from tokyo

[WhiteArchmage]

I've wondered about that. Whether maybe someone higher up said "no more races, we're not giving you the budget for it" so they put in the two half-races exactly because they knew the fandom would rage and demand the other half...

They still could have handled the reveal better. Especially confirming we had something other than Viera coming, "please look forward to it", and getting a lot of that rage out of the way early. Then at least there would be some excitement for the second reveal in itself, rather than being overshadowed by the full extent of the negative reaction.

That... would be very sneaky and shrewd of the dev team. And would mean that they're very much in-touch with the fanbase. At least enough to weaponize an expected reaction to "force" the higher ups into letting up.

Agreed, however, that they could have handled the reveals much better. But the interview in general gives a lot of hope (for stuff besides the gender-locks, hoping WHM gets some of its identity back or a new one altogether, and AST solidifies itself into a niche of its own instead of being WHM with buffs).

[Kazran]

I really don't want Hrothgar to share Roe's model even if it's easier to just retexture and rig it so it hunches over like it appears to be in the video... I don't want Hrothgar to have orangutan syndrome. Roe's legs look shorter than they should for their body. I want Hrothgar to be proportioned right. However in the reveal video they appear to have the same problem so perhaps I shouldn't hope.

They wouldn't share a body model, each would have their own body 'morph' as it were, this morph tells the gear mesh how to shape itself to appear as if your Avatar is wearing it, how to conform to the shape of their body as clothes and the like would naturally do! And so they could share gear models instead!

If they were to try to use a less thicc race as the base the gear would looked stretched out and weird and so they could use the gear made for roes as their body types would be much more compatible!

[Burningskull]

They wouldn't share a body model, each would have their own body 'morph' as it were, this morph tells the gear mesh how to shape itself to appear as if your Avatar is wearing it, how conform to the shape of their body as clothes and the like would naturally do! And so they could share gear models instead!

If they were to try to use a less thicc race as the base the gear would looked stretched out and weird and so they could use the gear made for roes as their body types would be much more compatible!

LOL. I'm not going to pretend I know what you are saying lol. I just hope they make their legs a tad bit longer ><

[LittleChickenNugget]

I don't want Hrothgar to have orangutan syndrome. Roe's legs look shorter than they should for their body. I want Hrothgar to be proportioned right. However in the reveal video they appear to have the same problem so perhaps I shouldn't hope.

If I can find the render comparison again, I think you'll be pleasantly pleased. The Hroth seem to actually have their own form - smaller arms, longer legs, and their chest/hip is more of an inverted triangle as opposed to a bulky rectangle. The Hroth are very much well proportioned for their body this time around.

[Boreal]

Extremely nervous about this MT/OT balance viewpoint. Last thing I want is to see anyone argue “you are not a real tank, we need a real tank” arguments.

Right, this thing right there is making me seriously nervous. I know Yoshi said nothing is set in stone, but if they do take this path what is going to happen to tank queues, for example? Will we have a separate queue for MT and OT in content that needs two tanks? What about content that only needs the MT? Will the OT dedicated job be forbidden to join? Or will be able to join but have -and god forbid it- their tank stance removed from their kit as a way to make it obvious they are the OT specialized job and not MT? I already foresee the kicks.
What about mechs that require tank swap or in situations in which the MT dies and OT needs to take over? Just...too many questions, I dislike how this can go wrong in so many situations.

Maybe I'm just reading too much, if they do this they are surely going to rework the entire system, for better or worse I don't know.

[Vahlnir]

Right, this thing right there is making me seriously nervous. I know Yoshi said nothing is set in stone

It has been my experience more often than not that when you're told not to panic, you probably should. lol I hope this ends well for tanks though considering I'll be becoming one with the release of Gunbreaker.

[Burningskull]

Right, this thing right there is making me seriously nervous. I know Yoshi said nothing is set in stone, but if they do take this path what is going to happen to tank queues, for example? Will we have a separate queue for MT and OT in content that needs two tanks? What about content that only needs the MT? Will the OT dedicated job be forbidden to join? Or will be able to join but have -and god forbid it- their tank stance removed from their kit as a way to make it obvious they are the OT specialized job and not MT? I already foresee the kicks.
What about mechs that require tank swap or in situations in which the MT dies and OT needs to take over? Just...too many questions, I dislike how this can go wrong in so many situations.

Maybe I'm just reading too much, if they do this they are surely going to rework the entire system, for better or worse I don't know.

I think they just mean how the playerbase would see the tanks. Each tank would need to be able to be the main tank in the case of one tank content and the main tank dying in two tank content.

[shiroxkatsuya]

the thing that I get is his mentions fans wanting a more animalistic/beast race, but in almost every MMO they make up a small minority of the playerbase (as low as 2% in some games) and that's with having them from release and not having to pay to race change or re-lvl and put yourself behind.

So from a game development standpoint it doesn't make sense unless they believe they can create a beast race that everyone and their mother is going to love and that will have more player then the potential for male Viera. ( know a lot of people who enjoyed the race in 12 and A2 who wanted to know what the males looked like, so it's chance not only to get those currently playing that are interested, but those who aren't)

Well i understand many people's disappointment about no male viera, i think you underestimate how many people do want a more beast like race though.


Also well im not positive, i would not freak out to much over the tank comments. I dont think it means that suddenly two tanks will be crappy at tanking bosses.

[Kazran]

That does seem more probable overall.

Seems curious to me that Au Ra don’t get their own separate category too, though - some things scale quite oddly on them and they could do with some better unique modelling. (I’m still annoyed that the Lv70 summoner gear basically stabs them in the face.)

I imagine it was a time saving method they used. Much easier to re-use meshes then make whole new ones from scratch. Its funny to me that Male Highlander isn't a Midlander based race, But they may have taken more time and reused a lot from 1.0 and so Highlander gets to be its own category, they are a lot wider from front to back then Midlander and so that could have caused weird morphing.

The 1.0 team was super focused on high detail that they could not see anything else, but some of the little details like Tail Holes, ear caps on helms and hats and belts that were visible (its why so much of the early gear looks unfinished/blank) were amazing and while they do still make ear caps, they really don't do the tail holes anymore and didn't even try to do something unique for Au'Ra, they just let the horns clip though the helm, probably to save time. and of course belts don't appear at all anymore!

[Kazran]

LOL. I'm not going to pretend I know what you are saying lol. I just hope they make their legs a tad bit longer ><

Basically theirs no worry of them sharing an actual model just that they would share gear models for time saving reasons. Wearing the shared gear wont make them look like Roes because the gear will conform to the Hrothgar body shape.