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[J-Reyno]

Erm... Captain Marvel isn't meeting Marvel's expectations fyi. Also you seem to forget how bad Ghostbuster 2016 bombed. Diversity is fine yes, but forcing it down our throats isn't.

I am really not the least bit interested in turning this into a discussion about Marvel, but Captain Marvel just became the 10th biggest comic book movie release of all time, of which there are many and not all are even MCU. I don't know or care what their expectations are, or how we think we know what those expectations were. The movie is a success all the same and among the top bestselling MCU movies, beating both Ragnarok and Homecoming. We don't call those movies failures.

I'd agree that diversity being forced when it doesn't make sense is detrimental, but there's nothing wrong with a movie made specifically with a female lead in mind for a female superhero.

In any case, this is ultimately a conversation about gender parity in FFXIV and not forced diversity.

[WaterShield]

I am really not the least bit interested in turning this into a discussion about Marvel, but Captain Marvel just became the 10th biggest comic book movie release of all time, of which there are many and not all are even MCU. I don't know or care what their expectations are, or how we think we know what those expectations were. The movie is a success all the same and among the top bestselling MCU movies, beating both Ragnarok and Homecoming. We don't call those movies failures.

I'd agree that diversity being forced when it doesn't make sense is detrimental, but there's nothing wrong with a movie made specifically with a female lead in mind for a female superhero.

In any case, this is ultimately a conversation about gender parity in FFXIV and not forced diversity.

With the current approach in the west they are one and the same. It fosters resentment.

As for myself... you do you. But don't expect me to "agree" with what you are doing. I'll simply tolerate it so long as it does not affect me directly.

[J-Reyno]

With the current approach in the west they are one and the same. It fosters resentment.

As for myself... you do you. But don't expect me to "agree" with what you are doing. I'll simply tolerate it so long as it does not affect me directly.

I don't need or expect you to agree with anything and it's not my goal to change your mind. The only time we'd have a problem is if you were actively campaigning against an inclusion that is, in all honesty, entirely fair.

If you're willing to tolerate the fair acceptance of others even if you don't like it and without needing to tell us that you don't like it all the time, then we can peacefully coexist.

[Noodle_Trinidad]

With that said, I'm surprised and I find it odd that Yoshi-P acknowledges the tantrum of "no bunboy fetish" in a matter of days after its announced. Yet, the months of overwhelming support of a non-limited Blue Mage job goes unnoticed.

Not really surprising if you consider how much push both have recieved in a short amount of time. While the backlash on BLU was visible to an extent, the overall media reaction was too little too late as the class wasn’t released at the time of announcement while the Official Forums have yet to show the growth Male Viera did with posts really just floating around 200-300 likes compared to the Male Viera bordering nearly 1000 in the span of a few days.

Simply put the game has essentially created a community and design layout in which the majority find cosmetic choices to be more important, a fault that is heavily exaggerated by iLvl.

[AxlStream]

2nd biggest Marvel opening of all time is disappointing?

How daft are you? It was set by Marvel to be their biggest movie to date. It did not meet that expectiong so AS A MARVEL MOVIE, yes. Disappointing.

[WaterShield]

I don't need or expect you to agree with anything and it's not my goal to change your mind. The only time we'd have a problem is if you were actively campaigning against an inclusion that is, in all honesty, entirely fair.

If you're willing to tolerate the fair acceptance of others even if you don't like it and without needing to tell us that you don't like it all the time, then we can peacefully coexist.

Which is all I think either side should expect. The resentment bit comes in due to a lot of political pressure to "accept" the movement and their values. It comes across as a push to convert people in a religious fashion. I'm all for spreading the idea of tolerance though.

It seems as though the majority of the West have forgotten how to disagree yet still coexist.

[SendohJin]

How daft are you? It was set by Marvel to be their biggest movie to date. It did not meet that expectiong so AS A MARVEL MOVIE, yes. Disappointing.

says who? there's no logical behind that. Capt America: Civil War, and all the Avengers movies all have awesome ensemble casts that no standalone movie should hope to match.

Black Panther was an outlier phenomenon. Marvel did not declare that if Captain Marvel wasn't a statistical anomaly it would be failure, that's insane. there is no mandate that it has to be the greatest or it's a failure, who fed you that?

[AxlStream]

says who? there's no logical behind that. Capt America: Civil War, and all the Avengers movies all have awesome ensemble casts that no standalone movie should hope to match.

Black Panther was an outlier phenomenon. Marvel did not declare that if Captain Marvel wasn't a statistical anomaly it would be failure, that's insane. there is no mandate that it has to be the greatest or it's a failure, who fed you that?

I'm not saying Captain Marvel is a failure either. I am just saying it did not meet Marvel's own financial expectation. They expected it to smash records. Failing to do so doesn't make it a bad movie. It's just saying that Marvel pushed something expecting a reception they didn't get. The reason are numerous and probably not fit for discussion here but one of them would probably be shoehorning an entirely new hero into a story as a savior role.

[Physic]

How daft are you? It was set by Marvel to be their biggest movie to date. It did not meet that expectiong so AS A MARVEL MOVIE, yes. Disappointing.

it actually met expectations as a marvel movie. its going to join the billion dollar club. You don't have to like it, but it was successful. Things dont have to appeal to every person, or to you specifically to be successful

[SendohJin]

I am just saying it did not meet Marvel's own financial expectation. They expected it to smash records.

proof? like you actually have Disney's earnings estimates and reports on this or something?

and it did smash records. it passed Wonder Woman's total box office in 3 weeks.