Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Geist]

+1 to this; I don't even have a horse in this particular race, as I was pretty interested in having two races being added at all, but if more options are available, more power to both the players and the devs.
It can only bring more meat (content and substance) to the table (the game).

FFXIV has always been a very inclusive game with varied and open options, at least since ARR, and I'd be happy if we could continue towards this trend. The fact Yoshida and the team are willing to listen in and evaluate player feedback is a chance to make the game more enjoyable for everyone, at least IMHO.

[Valmuro]

These things never work.

When you waste time posting things like this instead of support, then yeah, obviously.

[Magma442]

I would very much enjoy male Veira.

[Ephemerality]

I also want to throw my support in here for the eventual release of male viera and female hrothgar, and express my disappointment in the decision to return to genderlocked races after already having addressed and corrected the issue in the past with adding male miqo'te and female roegadyn and highlanders.

Though I appreciate the effort to try to please two subsets of players at once -- those wanting viera and those wanting a bestial race -- I think this was entirely the wrong way to go about it, and in the end, alienates more people than it pleases.

I also understand that it's too late now for changes at ShB launch, but please reconsider undoing the genderlock at a later date when more development resources may be available. This is something that's extremely important to many of your players, and seemingly at one point in time, was important enough to the dev team to remove once before -- and that's the dev team whose decisions to do so I was super proud of and to which I was happy to pay my sub.

[Mahnenwolf]

To be honest, I think fantasia sales would be greatly increased by all the people who wanted to play Male Viera, so Yoshi P and Square Enix, please get rid of genderlocking? You wallets will thank you.

[Dhanauranji]

Give us male Viera and then I'll start paying my sub again. This hurt and it hurt bad. This is a ragequit moment for me. Goodbye until they add male Viera. This is homophobic. Still afraid of adding male bunnies huh? Stop the pathetic excuses and start listening to the people who play this game.

Homophobic? Pffft, not even close.

A stepback from their promise not to genderlock stuff and a general, wholesome dissappointment given the work that was into it and it being what people wanted? Yes.

[Repliku]

see most of the last 89 pages? But silly me, I'm just feeding a troll

You're the main offender in the "throws random political buzzwords and doesn't provide any decent explanation" category.
Still waiting your answer regarding the fact that by your own argument you like war, injustice and human sacrifices.

[Lacan]

one of the main groups who were excited for male viera were the LGBT, and pretty/sexy men are generally associated with gayness (women generally enjoy a different type of male beauty than men do).

as someone who is gay, the majority of people i personally know that are mad about viera are LGBT, while the rest dont really care much about it. anecdocal evidence, but still seems to be common.

The funny thing is that the Hrothgar actually appeal to another section of the LGBT too. They're giant bara cat men after all. I mean how many pink haired miqote would mind falling asleep on the furry chest of a Hrothgar? :v

But the thing is, the LGBT isn't just the bara types. Others are more interested in softer looking men, or at least softer in comparison to Hrothgar. They're the ones most peeved by this I imagine. Personally, I like both types.

This is what Yoshi should have done:

[Lavenbun]

Ever thought that something is not about you or LGBT? Ever heard about Bishounen/Ikemen, yeah... many of us girls like these type of male beauty as well and are not that into the macho ones. So not everything is a LGBT issue. And this decision is neither homophobic against anyone or sexist.

This whole quote chain was replying to someone assuming mainly fetishizers/fujoshis wanted male viera though, lol. We're not making this about ourselves, but simply saying that there's all kinds of people who wanted them as well.

[sajah]

I support male viera! I was really hoping they would be included in the game, as were a lot of other players I know who have been really looking forward to it, planning to fantasia, and so on.

For those who don't understand why it would be called sexist or homophobic: there's an old q&a where Yoshida talked of how they were considering the idea of viera but a male bunny would be too "weird" (not in terms of lore, in terms of discomfort) so they wanted to make a male of another race instead. Why is making a very sexualized, skimpy dressed female character fine, but a male version was "weird" and unthinkable? Women designed to be blatantly sexually appealing to straight men are fine, yet men designed to be equally as blatantly sexually appealing to women and gay/bi men are "weird" and should be replaced with something else? Consider why anyone would find such a character "weird" and you will understand what people are getting at. There's more to say along the lines of how female characters have kept being overly sexualized in games in general but I think people are familiar enough with that argument.