It's time to add restrictions for sub-role dps in party

[Nariel]

The point is using the "ranged physical only had two jobs" is ridiculous. You're dps, you had options for vastly different playstyles within your role. Just because you didn't take then, doesn't mean that they weren't there. Healers don't.

You want to play heal you have 3 options.

You want to play ranged DpS you have 2.

Heal are even facing AST that robbed WHM of its identity. Heal need lot of rework and balancing before adding a fourth member to the club don't you think ?

[Tlachtga]

You want to play heal you have 3 options.

You want to play ranged DpS you have 2.

You have FIVE options. SMN, BLM and RDM are all ranged dps.

[Nariel]

You have FIVE options. SMN, BLM and RDM are all ranged dps.

Ho, want to play with word ? Ok

You want to play Heal, you have 3 options.

You want to play magic ranged DpS you have 3.

You want to play physical ranged DpS you have 2.

You want to play melee DpS you have 4.

You want to play tank you have 3.

Because caster totaly play like BRD/MCH its well known.

[Astrus]

Sure, can we also lock the tank slots into a Main Tank and Off Tank slot while we're at it?
And altogether prevent multiples of the same Job if the party isn't premade?

[Halivel]

Actually, there is quite similar system in PvP, where in one of the modes party making works in this way: only one range and only one melee dps can be taken.

I'm not sure it can be implemented to main playstyle though. Still, all statics are always open for at least one range dps (which is not about how system works itself of course, but still). No to mention that then queues for dps can be even worse than they are now.

[Physic]

The point is using the "ranged physical only had two jobs" is ridiculous. You're dps, you had options for vastly different playstyles within your role already. Just because you didn't take then, doesn't mean that they weren't there.

Healers don't have that luxury.

dps dont generally identify as dps. many people think in other terms. If i prefer melee, im probably not too excited about ranged classes, if i like magic users, physical types rarely excite me.

not saying they should add no healers, but the argument that all dps are interchangeable in terms of player interest doesnt hold up.

Personally i think the rigid role system is starting to show its flaws as the game tries to expand

[Tlachtga]

How, want to be play with word ? Ok

You want to play Heal, you have 3 options.

You want to play magic ranged DpS you have 3.

You want to play physical ranged DpS you have 2.

You want to play melee DpS you have 4.

You want to play tank you have 3.

Sure, let's play with words.

You want to play Melee Healer? You have 0 options
You want to play Physical Ranged Healer? You have 0 options
You want to play Magical Ranged Healer? You have 3 options

You want to play Melee Tank? You have 4 options
You want to play Physical Ranged Tank? You have 0 options
You want to play Magical Ranged Tank? You have 0 options

You want to play Melee DPS? You have 4 options
You want to play Physical Ranged DPS? You have 3 options
You want to play Magical Ranged DPS? You have 3 options

Cos you know, sub-roles of sub-roles are SUPER IMPORTANT now.

Because caster totaly play like BRD/MCH its well known.

Yes they play differently. That's my point; as a DPS, you have the option to experience a vastly different playstyle within your role. Healers don't.

[Derio]

Its really just adding a dps job due to the fact they think that sales will go down if they only add a tank and healer job in a expansion.

[Nora_of_Mira]

If you are not agree, then sub-role dps is not as important as healer and tank, and so ranged dps shouldn't had the priority to get another job over the healers.

i've read a lot of crazy things this weekend during the fanfest, but this is craziest, farthest reaching attempt to justify having another healer that I have ever read.

[Tlachtga]

Its really just adding a dps job due to the fact they think that sales will go down if they only add a tank and healer job in a expansion.

Perhaps they foresaw the inevitable backlash from the new races would bring and tried to mitigate it by releasing a dps.

Or they just don't have time. They're clearly suffering under time constraints, and adding a copypaste BRD is gonna be easier to balance than a healer.