Jobs for Expansion AFTER Shadowbringers

[CaptainLagbeard]

I want Time Mage and Viking.

[Lambdafish]

I've always wanted Chemist and Rune Fencer (Mystic Knight? Spellblade?). Though I would want Rune Fencer as a tank, so I wouldn't want that in 6.0. Maybe Chemist and Geomancer as Healer and Caster in 6.0?

I want Time Mage

Isn't AST a time mage in the same way that BRD is a ranger?

[Ilyrian]

I want Time Mage and Viking.

The problem is Time Mage is finding an identity for it in FFXIV.

If it starts using spells like Haste and Slow - either all bosses will be immune or a Time Mage becomes mandatory in every composition. Same with Haste on the party - every composition will need a Time Mage.

I suppose one way would be to have the TM only Haste themselves and that becomes a part of the rotation and gimmick but ultimately it renders Time magic just another flavor mechanic with no real benefits.

[Daralii]

The problem is Time Mage is finding an identity for it in FFXIV.

If it starts using spells like Haste and Slow - either all bosses will be immune or a Time Mage becomes mandatory in every composition. Same with Haste on the party - every composition will need a Time Mage.

I suppose one way would be to have the TM only Haste themselves and that becomes a part of the rotation and gimmick but ultimately it renders Time magic just another flavor mechanic with no real benefits.

AST also already has it thematically through Time Dilation and Astral Stasis. You could argue that Arrow is another example, since it effectively functions like Haste.

[Ilyrian]

AST also already has it thematically through Time Dilation and Astral Stasis. You could argue that Arrow is another example, since it effectively functions like Haste.

Yes, true.
I'd imagine they have to drastically rework AST if TM was ever going to be a thing.

[CaptainLagbeard]

The problem is Time Mage is finding an identity for it in FFXIV.

If it starts using spells like Haste and Slow - either all bosses will be immune or a Time Mage becomes mandatory in every composition. Same with Haste on the party - every composition will need a Time Mage.

I suppose one way would be to have the TM only Haste themselves and that becomes a part of the rotation and gimmick but ultimately it renders Time magic just another flavor mechanic with no real benefits.

Haste could easily work as a buff similar to RDM's Embolden or DRG's Battle Litany, and yea Slow couldn't really work on bosses without making them be almost a requirement in raids. But there are other Time Magic spells that could be usable on bosses, like Old from FF5 could easily be a combination of Addle and Feint.

For attacks, Nabriales from the Chrysalis was a Time Mage, he used Dark, Quake and Spark as attacks, with Double and Triple adding extra attacks to Spark.


And if they really wanted to get creative with Time Magic, they could try elements of Exorcist from Bravely Second.

[Daralii]

Haste could easily work as a buff similar to RDM's Embolden or DRG's Battle Litany, and yea Slow couldn't really work on bosses without making them be almost a requirement in raids. But there are other Time Magic spells that could be usable on bosses, like Old from FF5 could easily be a combination of Addle and Feint.

For attacks, Nabriales from the Chrysalis was a Time Mage, he used Dark, Quake and Spark as attacks, with Double and Triple adding extra attacks to Spark.


And if they really wanted to get creative with Time Magic, they could try elements of Exorcist from Bravely Second.

But how would you differentiate Haste from Arrow? I guess it could be something like the old Spear, but there's a reason that card was changed.

[Shurrikhan]

But how would you differentiate Haste from Arrow? I guess it could be something like the old Spear, but there's a reason that card was changed.

You'd probably have to give all players access to a global Overcharge/Overclock mechanic from the start, whereby one can "rush" or "bank" a cooldown for power [less than] proportionate to the % charge time. For instance, something charged 75% of the way to its true cooldown might do 67% effect and something charge 133% might do 125% effect, etc.

At that point you could just have Haste affect your global cooling speed. The Overcharge mechanic would allow you to retain power reasonably when holding for raid buff sync and the Overclock mechanic would allow you to hit an extra breakpoint more easily, where at all relevant.

i wish we'd get something similar to ninja without the while eastern theme. but i have no idea about the specifics.
also it could be fun to have some kind of magic sword man a la ff5

I mean, Middle Eastern motifs come most to mind for the latter, but that wouldn't be that distinct from what we've gotten through Ninja already.

Apart from that a Western "ninja" just feels to me like a Van Helsing knockoff. Though I'd have no complaints with that.