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  1. #11
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    Binahel's Avatar
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    Sivesh Binahel
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by ScarboroughFairy View Post

    Points to the inference that they were in a time/cost crunch when developing the races.

    People freaking the hell out about the lack of counterparts, you can unclench your intestines now.
    this means something even WORST in itself: the fact that they lack time and people to work on the game development and they scrap out things for this reason.

    I don't know about you, but for me this information it's evern worst, it means this games has a doom clock on it.
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  2. #12
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    T'alarea Taraf
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    Jenova
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    So... why work quickly on two races then?
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  3. #13
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Honestly, I would have preferred they released male and female Hrothgar (Yes, even if it meant not seeing ONE Viera in RtI, I would've complained and grumbled, but silently and eventually accepted that it meant they would work on making them playable later) and held off Viera for later. Gender-locks in general tick me off (since PWI when Male Untamed have a choice between Panda, Lion or Tiger head and Females are cute ladies with fox ears, tails, and OH LOOK!).
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  4. #14
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    I wouldn't get your hopes up on them adding females or males to those races. Better to live and let live, tho it is nice they provided a reason. Tho I think they only did cause of the massive amount of salt without fries that happened over the 2 days. I'm just glad we got different looks, I'm staying a miqo jones but it'll be nice to see bunny girls and bara cat dudes. I'mma poke all their noses.
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  5. #15
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    Vafre Navafreyr
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I honestly want the people who were accusing the devs for excluding the counterparts due to sexism and homophobia to come and explain themselves. Like, what do you simps have to say for yourselves?
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  6. #16
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Well if that is the case than it would sure be nice for them to just confirm that they'll be coming eventually rather than coming up with some awful excuse about lore reasons less than 24 hours before confirming the date we can all get our regalia.
    You get a car! And you get a car! And YOU get a car! And you can all have motorcycles! And play catboys. But the thing thats less rare than all of those in the lore is a no-go because it messes with the lore we're messing with to have playable female Viera.

    The "lore" reason never worked when they change the games lore live on stream regularly, and nobody on either side of the argument actually believed it did. (I still dont care about anything other than "lore" being the stupidest argument ive heard for explaining obvious executive decisions)
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  7. #17
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    Honestly this was pretty obvious just looking at the Hrothgar reveal. They need some more polish (Viera too holy cardboard ears batman) which they'll get by release. Likely what happened is they implimented the gender locks to A) get both races in and established and possibly B) use the gender lock backlash to justify doing more work with them later. I have little doubt we will see the counterparts eventually. I can only hope by the time we do they set it up lorewise ala Yugiri's reveal.
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  8. #18
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    Lho Polaali
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    One thing I'd like to point out, assuming this translation is accurate enough: "We were deciding whether to make a Hrothgar female or a Viera female". The debate was about the females, implying male Viera were never an option to begin with as it makes it sound like the male Hroths were a given, the question is what came with them. So not only did they not consider the first option to be the well requested Viera, but they also opted for the gender locks. I get why, I suppose, given Viera seem to be more popular than Hrothgar with both genders, and seeing Fran in the game would have, as stated before, caused a shitstorm if bunnies weren't playable.
    But there's too much behind that decision that I don't like.
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  9. #19
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    T'alarea Taraf
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    Jenova
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    Also I'm scared two big mmo's just had major layoffs. I'm worried for the devs at ffxiv
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  10. #20
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    Wylantar Aderyn
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Probably could have pulled off two fully realized races with male and female models if they didn't waste their time with BLU.
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