Information on why the devs didn't include Viera Male/Hrothgar Female

[ScarboroughFairy]

I honestly want the people who were accusing the devs for excluding the counterparts due to sexism and homophobia to come and explain themselves. Like, what do you simps have to say for yourselves?

[Tramontane]

I honestly want the people who were accusing the devs for excluding the counterparts due to sexism and homophobia to come and explain themselves.

Do you think sexism and homophobia only exist in the world when people blurt out "I am sexist!" or "I am homophobic!" immediately prior to whatever damaging action they are about to undertake?

Wait, let me guess. When the devs took years to remove the genderlock on the bunny suit and said it was because all the men were uncomfortable with working on it, they meant they were uncomfortable with the, um, constraints on resources imposed by SE management.

And when Yoshida said male viera would be "weird" he meant it would take a weirdly large amount of resources to create them.

And when a race locked to female characters caters to straight male fantasies about women, while a race locked to male characters caters to the qualities straight men want to embody, it's all down to an efficient allocation of resources, even though this division is already catered to by existing content (Au Ra).

If the self-justifications of corporate executives were exculpatory of any perceived shortcomings and that's all there is to say about it, we might as well pack up both free markets and democracy. Or one could decide to use a modicum of critical thinking when approaching media and entertainment consumption, not to mention society in general. I prefer the latter.

Like, what do you simps have to say for yourselves?

Irony is dead.

Here's what I have to say for myself: you don't get to say what I perceive as sexist or homophobic. You and the rest of the crowd here and on Reddit who have been engaging in ugly attacks on those who have dared to express their dissatisfaction have no empathy or desire to understand what you're attacking. I can't think of anything more "simp" than that.

[NessaWyvern]

I wouldn't say that Female Viera catered entirely to men, or that Hrothgar also caters entirely to men.
As a woman who plays FF14, I would like to play female Viera, as I like to play as badass beautiful women (when I am not playing as an adorable, evil lalafell).
Hrothgar isn't my thing, but I am sure there are some women out there who like it.

[ScarboroughFairy]

Do you think sexism and homophobia only exist in the world when people blurt out "I am sexist!" or "I am homophobic!" immediately prior to whatever damaging action they are about to undertake?

Wait, let me guess. When the devs took years to remove the genderlock on the bunny suit and said it was because all the men were uncomfortable with working on it, they meant they were uncomfortable with the, um, constraints on resources imposed by SE management.

And when Yoshida said male viera would be "weird" he meant it would take a weirdly large amount of resources to create them.

You can, as a man, find the idea of men wearing lingerie weird if it's something you're not used to seeing or prefer to see. That doesn't necessarily equate to homophobia. A man and a woman making out in front of me is something I find weird, but I'm not heterophobic, am I? Don't conflate "weird" with "wrong", those two can be mutually exclusive.

And when a race locked to female characters caters to straight male fantasies about women, while a race locked to male characters caters to the qualities straight men want to embody, it's all down to an efficient allocation of resources, even though this division is already catered to by existing content (Au Ra).

And, as I've stated in several other threads, there's nothing wrong with a woman dressing in a way considered "sexy" (depending on your tastes). We have several archetypes that span over several races that get representation like the burly and rugged Roe women and the cutesy Lala men. There's nothing wrong with the design of female Viera appealing to what is commonly considered feminine traits just as there is nothing wrong with the male Hrothgar appealing to the typical standard of what's generally agreed upon in some cultures as masculinity. Not all masculinity is toxic and slutshaming is frowned upon nowadays, y'know?

Also, do remember that the same thing that straight men find alluring, some lesbians likely find alluring as well. It's not just straight men that they're catering to. There's a larger degree of inclusiveness in the design than you realize.

Here's what I have to say for myself: you don't get to say what I perceive as sexist or homophobic. You and the rest of the crowd here and on Reddit who have been engaging in ugly attacks on those who have dared to express their dissatisfaction have no empathy or desire to understand what you're attacking. I can't think of anything more "simp" than that.

Sure, I don't get to say what you perceive as sexist or homophobic. That won't stop you from being any less misinformed in regards to your opinion, especially when the decision of the races likely has less to do with everything you accuse the devs of and more to do with how they develop games. To say otherwise is to engage in the perspective from what I just implied: a simpleton. You don't get to say what I perceive as simpleton behavior.