Make Viera and Hrothgar non-binary / gender-neutral?

[Rivers23]

No, there's two sexes: male and female. I don't even care if I get banned for saying this.
And yes, if you people actually played single player FF games, you'd realize that certain things are well established and that changing them certainly feels weird from a perspective of a fan of the series.

[Azurymber]

No, there's two sexes: male and female. I don't even care if I get banned for saying this.
And yes, if you people actually played single player FF games, you'd realize that certain things are well established and that changing them certainly feels weird from a perspective of a fan of the series.

Actually there are also people who are intersex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
And claiming there are only 2 sexes is somewhat discriminatory/exclusionary towards them.

And here is an article describing the science behind sex as a spectrum: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/

So no reason why this game has to assume 2-sexes for every race.
There are lots of options

[WhiteArchmage]

No, there's two sexes: male and female. I don't even care if I get banned for saying this.
And yes, if you people actually played single player FF games, you'd realize that certain things are well established and that changing them certainly feels weird from a perspective of a fan of the series.

Oh, boy, there was this whole THING in another thread but basically: A) Sex is biological, while gender is a social construct, this game uses the latter to mean the former but that's how they roll. B) There are actually more than two sexes, since people can be born intersex, and may or may not develop the secondary characteristics of both, and then there's XXY individuals or maaaany other arrangement of chromosomes (mostly extra X chromosomes, because of the mother).

[Lauront]

Oh, boy, there was this whole THING in another thread but basically: A) Sex is biological, while gender is a social construct, this game uses the latter to mean the former but that's how they roll. B) There are actually more than two sexes, since people can be born intersex, and may or may not develop the secondary characteristics of both, and then there's XXY individuals or maaaany other arrangement of chromosomes (mostly extra X chromosomes, because of the mother).

Which comprise what % of the population, exactly?

Actually there are also people who are intersex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
And claiming there are only 2 sexes is somewhat discriminatory/exclusionary towards them.

And here is an article describing the science behind sex as a spectrum: https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/

So no reason why this game has to assume 2-sexes for every race.
There are lots of options

Their lore isn't written that way. So the game has already "assumed" for Viera.

Regarding that second article, I'd like to see you explain it clearly, rather than just linking it, because there is plenty of ideological fluff/propaganda masquerading as and using the language of science.

[Endeleon]

Which comprise what % of the population, exactly?



Their lore isn't written that way. So the game has already "assumed" for Viera.

Regarding that second article, I'd like to see you explain it clearly, rather than just linking it.

Oh, because THAT matters. When we are talking about hydaelyn damned bunny people. JFC I can't stand you all.

[Lauront]

Oh, because THAT matters. When we are talking about hydaelyn damned bunny people. JFC I can't stand you all.

Yes it matters, and I don't care. Block me if you can't. I don't think you're going to offer much interesting discussion.

[Endeleon]

Yes it matters, and I don't care. Block me if you can't. I don't think you're going to offer much interesting discussion.

Interesting discussion? You are literally throwing out bigoted nonsense to back up your opinion of a fantasy race but I'm the one in the wrong.... lmao

[Theodric]

Interesting discussion? You are literally throwing out bigoted nonsense to back up your opinion of a fantasy race but I'm the one in the wrong.... lmao

There's nothing 'bigoted' about personal preferences. Especially when it comes to fictional races in a fictional setting. It's also not a line of discussion well suited for FFXIV to begin with, though.

[Azurymber]

Regarding that second article, I'd like to see you explain it clearly, rather than just linking it, because there is plenty of ideological fluff/propaganda masquerading as and using the language of science.

You're asking me to summarize an article from nature (one of the world's leading academic journals and scientific news sources), that's already a summary of a very complex subject.
The article explains it clearly. That's why I linked that specific article. With nice real life examples (e.g. a guy who had kids, and also had a womb).

Why don't you just go to coursera and edx and learn biology instead of expecting a random person on a forum to teach you science?

If you want to learn molecular biology, biochem, neurosci, gender psych, etc, hit me up in game once and if I have time I'll answer your questions.
But I'm not going to write an essay for you on a forum, when someone else has already written it in a more succinct and clear way.

[WhiteArchmage]

Which comprise what % of the population, exactly?



Their lore isn't written that way. So the game has already "assumed" for Viera.

Regarding that second article, I'd like to see you explain it clearly, rather than just linking it, because there is plenty of ideological fluff/propaganda masquerading as and using the language of science.

I...don't see how that matters? 1.7% of the world population is some degree of intersex, without getting into the percentage of non-binary individuals, which is higher because, again gender =/= sex. Which is for real world statistics, and again, it has no bearing in this game. I was correcting someone who erroneously claimed there's only two sexes. My previous post in here is how I don't see SE making a non-binary race, even if I'd be okay with it. I'd rather see the male Viera and, if a non-binary/gender-neutral race is made in the future, I'd be okay with it.