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  1. #21
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzel120 View Post
    Yoshi also said the reason they added Gunbreaker was to have another option to WAR for OT since PLD and DRK both are used primarily as MT.
    DRK rework
    Balance the tanks so they won't fail at their own designated role
    Balance the tanks so they're competitive with the other tank in their designated role
    Balance the tanks to they can perform adequately at the role they weren't designated for in case of a pug

    That seems like a lot of balancing to do for tanks
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    Akam Mizuna
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    I wanted a new healer too but meh, shit happens, get over it.
    I can't wait how 5.0 will screw over SCH again tho.
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  3. #23
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    SoleilAlphi's Avatar
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    Radimir Amarya
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    I'm sorry I offended you both so much with my post O.o

    It wasn't my intention to do so.

    I'm free to post just as both of you are, so its fine! Don't worry so much about it, and it is fine if you disagree with my feedback or opinions. So relax~
    eh? I'm not offended. Simply, instead of making thread after thread clogging the forum, you could have posted in one of the already existing healer threads. I guess organized threads are just a JP forum prerogative tho
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  4. #24
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    Endeleon's Avatar
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    Amethyst Loire
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    DRK rework
    Balance the tanks so they won't fail at their own designated role
    Balance the tanks so they're competitive with the other tank in their designated role
    Balance the tanks to they can perform adequately at the role they weren't designated for in case of a pug

    That seems like a lot of balancing to do for tanks
    LOL right... imagine your class is designed to be the useless DPS.
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  5. #25
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawntracker View Post
    I am also a healer and cant wait to see the new skills and adjustments to my favorite jobs.
    These are my thoughts as well. I love me some WHM and have been a WHM main since XI days. I have both of the other healers at 70 as well, but neither of them either really did it for me. So a part of me was looking forward to a new healer, but now that that isn't the case, I'm quite OK with it. On a personal level, I think there was probably a good chance that I would have leveled it, but then reverted back to my trusty WHM when all was said and done. So at this point I'm looking forward to see how they are tweaking the job.

    If/when a new healer comes out, I'll definitely check it out (and maybe my assumption above will be wrong), but for now it's something I'm not really even thinking about.
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  6. #26
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aercus View Post
    Are they gonna add a healer or ranged dps? There are only 2 rdps after all. So deciding on dancer being rdps makes full sense to me.
    There are 6 ranged dps jobs currently, 5 if you discount BLU.

    I have no idea why people can't comprehend this.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Wait... what? That's bizarro level bull right there.WAR is always the MT these days.
    Just another case of the developers not knowing their own game or playerbase.

    See: 2.0 Warrior, 3.0 Bard, 3.0 Ninja, . . . The list goes on.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-25-2019 at 12:37 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    There are 6 ranged dps jobs currently, 5 if you discount BLU.

    I have no idea why people can't comprehend this.
    I'd say BLM, SMN and RDM fall into mage/magic casters. BRD and MCH are your two ranged DPS. BLU most definitely should not count in this as you can't even take it out to most things.
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  8. #28
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Midgardsormr
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    There are 6 ranged dps jobs currently, 5 if you discount BLU.

    I have no idea why people can't comprehend this.
    Guy. Even SE designates them differently through role actions. Role Actions. Obviously they're different roles. There are only 2 that are in the same camp.
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  9. #29
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    There are 6 ranged dps jobs currently, 5 if you discount BLU.

    I have no idea why people can't comprehend this.
    The game splits them into ranged physical and ranged magical. The former are more support role focused.
    PR-DPS: Bard, Machinist (Dancer coming in 5.0)
    MR-DPS: Black Mage, Summoner, Red Mage (I do not count BLU due to being a limited job).

    So PR-DPS are getting a third option. Something to take on the BRD monopoly (with MCH hopefully getting a nice rework too). But given they said the reason for adding GNB as a tank was to give the OT (WAR) competition... why aren't healers being given similar treatment?
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  10. #30
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    i get that there hasnt been much growth in your chosen field.

    but, i wonder what exactly would you want from a new healer? I feel like the reason they have no new healers is because there isnt much a new healer would bring to the table. Unless they were willing to make some healer types that bend or push the combat system overall.

    i agree that dps isnt drastically different either, but dps can be allowed to be bad, tank and healer are generally designed where as long as you try, you will probably be adequate.


    to summarize, what are you looking for in a new healer other than existing?
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