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  1. #261
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    OriWhitedeer's Avatar
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    Orifielle Cerfblanc
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    Exodus
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    I suppose not gender locking all races and future races. I support male vierra and female Hrothgar. Do not let lore from other games limit 14, not when ARR and HW took said lore and made it their own so well. Do not repeat mistakes associated with a well-liked but ultimately scrapped game (1.0). I know many female Rogadyn and male Miqote that would have been really bummed had 14 stuck to past lore so strictly.
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  2. #262
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesShannara View Post
    It's 2019, stop making giant beefy men and petite dainty women and give us the petite men and beefy women. Remove the gender locks. C'mon.
    I don't understand. What makes you guys think that even if they make Male Viera, it's going to be this 'petite' interpretation you guys are so crazy for? I'm pretty sure that in the one piece of concept art that was showing, Yoshida was pretty resistant to the idea. If anything, they'd be just as large, and have just as commanding a presence, as any other male race.

    Moreover... You do realize that people get in trouble for demanding the characters in those pictures on the front page, right? That isn't 'petite'... that's a literal child.

    That's not cool, man.
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  3. #263
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    Kreyd Lerival
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    +1

    If you would excuse me now. I'm now going to Limsa and tell 90% of the half naked catboys to either change or delete their char, because they are not playing lore conform and destroying everyone immersion.
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  4. #264
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    I don't understand. What makes you guys think that even if they make Male Viera, it's going to be this 'petite' interpretation you guys are so crazy for? I'm pretty sure that in the one piece of concept art that was showing, Yoshida was pretty resistant to the idea. If anything, they'd be just as large, and have just as commanding a presence, as any other male race.

    Moreover... You do realize that people get in trouble for demanding the characters in those pictures on the front page, right? That isn't 'petite'... that's a literal child.

    That's not cool, man.
    They definetly wont look like Hrothgar, so thats a thing.
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  5. #265
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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Only time will tell i guess. Personally i wouldn't expect this until the next cycle of development of new content creation begins, far after Stormbringer. Lore can evolve and change over time, things within the world can cause a certain male race to be forced out of the wooded shadows...

    Calamities could be the cause of the separation of a certain races female pride..... things could happen.

    In a game world as big as this one, Story really does have to drive the boat; despite it not always being in the best interest of each individuals wishes or desires; the appearance of a new race or race(s) have to come with a plausible reason in a world like this.

    This is one way of saying: "Dev resources were cut short, we had to make a choice; scrap Viera altogether or come up with a compromise"

    This is all just speculative, but i'm trying to get inside the mindset of a developer/creator; because there is definitely a reason why there isn't a Male Viera or a Female Ronso for them to show us or be included right now; there is always a reason.

    So what is that reason? It certainly isn't to deliberately tick people off; but it's at least worth the discussion; but certainly not worth the hostility or vitriol I've seen in various threads and posts.

    But as I've mentioned before, there is no reason to suspect that there won't be these variants to these two races at a later time.

    I totally get where the core confusion and upset comes from, and it's from this image:



    So i get it... but please, the Keynote wasn't even 24 hours ago, give it some time to breathe a little, and allow them time to respond to this. Although i know this sentiment is useless on the internet, but.. i don't know... try.
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  6. #266
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    Echofalls's Avatar
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    Vairemont Sorel
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    I think the overall mood of the community is negative, given the current situation. Hopefully SE will have to make a compromise to settle this, or it'll be an even worse catastrophe than Eureka Pagos at launch.
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    Summoners; the only class that are actively encouraged to constantly Ruin everything.

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    Hypocrite, double standard, blah blah blah. We're all hypocrites with double standards
    Red Mage; Everything I wanted in BLM & SMN, but with infinitely more style.

  7. #267
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    Halivel's Avatar
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    I support.
    I don't like the whole gender lock thing itself. Never liked it in every game where it was, don't like it now and never will like because it's a silly system that should never have born in the first place.
    I was glad to hear in 2.0 when they said that they will never do this again. And here we are, a gender lock comeback. What did change in these years, for what reason should we sustain such decision now?
    If you add sexy female Vieras and feral male Hrothgar: well then, give us sexy males Vieras and feral females Hrothgar so everyone will be pleased with options.
    I really hope they will reconsider their decision and implement them in the future even if it will be somewhere in 6.0 because it's understandable that it's a huge amount of work. And also hope they will not use lore as excuse again, because it's not an argument (we are okay with Nier raid but not okay with genders? HUH.)

    Outside of this the expansion is going to be good and I am personally going to enjoy it, though I am a little bit sorry for healers who do not receive new job again.
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    Last edited by Halivel; 04-01-2019 at 07:03 PM.

  8. #268
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    Kiriati's Avatar
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    Demistel Locke
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Genderlocks are bad and no one likes them
    They can sometimes be tolerated when it comes to gear, but this is a bridge too far, Square
    Please reconsider your decision and add male Viera and female Hrothgar
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  9. #269
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    Reylinn's Avatar
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    Reylinn Feldruun
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 80
    So this was briefly mentioned but Viera are a creation of another artist. Does anyone even consider that female only Viera is a courtesy to Matsuno which he has so courteously lent his lore to? Maybe he should screw with Sakaguchi's vision of Terra. Or borrowing and screwing with 9S's lore after the 24 man without consulting Taro. FF14 is borrowing Viera at the request of the fan base and maybe just maybe there were some limitations to that.
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  10. #270
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    Serene Lamesort
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    Moogle
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    And here i thought that March was a bit late for a snow(flake) storm
    Homophobia A.K.A politically correct godwin point was reached 3 messages after OP /clap

    "Will stop subbing because a race that i probably wouldn't play anyway won't be added" ? Ludicrous.
    I've heard enough shit about "a certain rp community" glad we won't have male bunnies to add insult to injury.

    You also need to realize that "haters" are merely a loud minority of the community. No, your opinion isn't "what all players want".
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