Gender locked race?

[Seraphor]

Misandry doesn't exist by virtue of the term involving a position of power. It's ingrained into a lot of those terms. A person of color can be bigoted towards white people in America, but it makes them bigoted, not racist - they don't have a position of racial power over the person they're bigoted towards. That's why Misandry is a concept you're not really going to run into often, if at all.

This is an entirely American viewpoint, and a misunderstanding of racism.
In America, race issues are black versus white, but those aren't the only races.
Go to europe, and you'll find that a lot of historical race issues are between different enthicities that would all be considered "white".

To claim that "white people cant be racist" IS racism.

[BillyKaplan]

This is an entirely American viewpoint

It was, I'm sorry I didn't make that clear enough. But within that context, the point more than holds.

To claim that "white people cant be racist" IS racism.

Now where did I make that claim? If you meant more 'white people can't be racists against" or something then within the European context I'd say they're not even White, as that in and of itself is an American context, so the debate is all over the place already.

[NahuNa]

This is an entirely American viewpoint, and a misunderstanding of racism.
In America, race issues are black versus white, but those aren't the only races.
Go to europe, and you'll find that a lot of historical race issues are between different enthicities that would all be considered "white".

To claim that "white people cant be racist" IS racism.

I mean, Europe literally invented "white" and "black" but go off? I really don't understand what you're trying to say here cuz Europe still hates black people pretty uniformly, even if they also bicker amongst each other about which version of "white" is better.

No its misandry, because the term is about the sex not the features. If someone hates those kinds of features on a Male that's stereotyping. Not hating them cause they are Male, but because they are not the "ideal" male.
I wont say you are "wrong" but that doesn't change the fact that misandry is the proper term to use. It's like saying "reverse-racism" which does not exist, because true "reverse-racism" would be hating your own race, not another one.

And you misunderstand that it's still misogyny because the hatred is towards the feminine. Those terms never refer to the "sex," they refer to what is being hated (womanhood and femininity) even if it's the features of a man. As for the reverse racism, you lost me.

[Eloah]

I mean, Europe literally invented "white" and "black" but go off? I really don't understand what you're trying to say here cuz Europe still hates black people pretty uniformly, even if they also bicker amongst each other about which version of "white" is better.



And you misunderstand that it's still misogyny because the hatred is towards the feminine. Those terms never refer to the "sex," they refer to what is being hated (womanhood and femininity) even if it's the features of a man. As for the reverse racism, you lost me.

Andr and gyny the two modifiers of the terms misandry and misogyny literally mean man and woman in ancient Greek. That's why I'm saying it's misandry, cause its specifically against male viera, not feminine males, otherwise Male miqo'te would get flack as well. The two terms are about someone's sex, not their gender. Women and femininity and men and masculinity aren't mutually exclusive.

As for the reverse-racism, I'll give an example that hits closer to home, lol. A reverse-harem. In anime if we refer to a show as a harem, we think a male protagonist with many female suitors, and if someone says reverse-harem, we think female protagonist with many male suitors. But both are technically just harems. A reverse-harem would be a male protagonist with male suitors or a female protagonist with female suitors. To reverse something, is to point it in the opposite direction. And if you are male the usual direction it towards female, but if you reverse that, it goes back towards your own sex, ie male. That's why reverse-(somethings) don't truly exist, at least not how we think of them anyway.

Think of those gay VNs that have been popping up lately. Those are reverse-harems.