Gender locked race?

[Esteed]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

Actually, the hatred of male viera IS misogyny, because it's the hatred of feminine features on a man. The man isn't the problem - the problem is this man resembles women too much. Misandry is not real.

If ever there was a shining beacon of somebody not arguing in good faith this would likely be it.

[NahuNa]

If ever there was a shining beacon of somebody not arguing in good faith this would likely be it.

Oh, that's because I'm not arguing, I'm telling. The hatred of feminine men is rooted in the hatred of women. Very basic stuff.

[Esteed]

Regardless of what you think you know saying things like misandry does not exist does very little to show that you're worth taking serious.

[BillyKaplan]

Regardless of what you think you know saying things like misandry does not exist does very little to show that you're worth taking serious.

Misandry doesn't exist by virtue of the term involving a position of power. It's ingrained into a lot of those terms. A person of color can be bigoted towards white people in America, but it makes them bigoted, not racist - they don't have a position of racial power over the person they're bigoted towards. That's why Misandry is a concept you're not really going to run into often, if at all.

[Fukuro]

i‘m just not impressed with their reasoning.. come on se, lore? you can do better than that...
just keep fighting guys, with enough people interested in it, they may change their mind in the future

[NahuNa]

Regardless of what you think you know saying things like misandry does not exist does very little to show that you're worth taking serious.

Please call me when men are forbidden from inheriting property.

[faris_minamino]

i‘m just not impressed with their reasoning.. come on se, lore? you can do better than that...
just keep fighting guys, with enough people interested in it, they may change their mind in the future

yep, always customers have the power. Also they lied to us, they said no more gender lock in 2.0, and not they add 2 gender locked races. They lied to us.

[Seraphor]

Misandry doesn't exist by virtue of the term involving a position of power. It's ingrained into a lot of those terms. A person of color can be bigoted towards white people in America, but it makes them bigoted, not racist - they don't have a position of racial power over the person they're bigoted towards. That's why Misandry is a concept you're not really going to run into often, if at all.

This is an entirely American viewpoint, and a misunderstanding of racism.
In America, race issues are black versus white, but those aren't the only races.
Go to europe, and you'll find that a lot of historical race issues are between different enthicities that would all be considered "white".

To claim that "white people cant be racist" IS racism.

[BillyKaplan]

This is an entirely American viewpoint

It was, I'm sorry I didn't make that clear enough. But within that context, the point more than holds.

To claim that "white people cant be racist" IS racism.

Now where did I make that claim? If you meant more 'white people can't be racists against" or something then within the European context I'd say they're not even White, as that in and of itself is an American context, so the debate is all over the place already.

[Eloah]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........

Actually, the hatred of male viera IS misogyny, because it's the hatred of feminine features on a man. The man isn't the problem - the problem is this man resembles women too much. Misandry is not real.

No its misandry, because the term is about the sex not the features. If someone hates those kinds of features on a Male that's stereotyping. Not hating them cause they are Male, but because they are not the "ideal" male.

Misandry doesn't exist by virtue of the term involving a position of power. It's ingrained into a lot of those terms. A person of color can be bigoted towards white people in America, but it makes them bigoted, not racist - they don't have a position of racial power over the person they're bigoted towards. That's why Misandry is a concept you're not really going to run into often, if at all.

I wont say you are "wrong" but that doesn't change the fact that misandry is the proper term to use. It's like saying "reverse-racism" which does not exist, because true "reverse-racism" would be hating your own race, not another one.

Bit I am sure we can all agree we don't want this to turn us against eachother and start a gender/race war, irl at least. Let's just make SE aware that what they did was wrong, especially after they "fixed" it last time.