Gender locked race?

[seros]

I understand that is hard to develop a race, but I think more of the community would have been happy than one full race with two genders instead of the two races one gender we're getting right now.

[Kazran]

You can already design rough looking women in-game if you wish as well as more delicate looking men. It's not as if either aesthetic is neglected when it comes to the character customisation system.

There is nothing wrong with more options. A female Roe and a female Hrothgar would be different hugely in aesthetic as would male Viera be different to Lalafell and Miqote. Especially if based from the concept art that exists of Male Viera. Yes the races are 'rough' or 'cute' or 'sexy' but in different ways and in different tastes. I'm not saying we should cater to very taste but these being their 'final' races it feels silly to limit them so.

[Wilford111]

I'll stop implying it when you actually respect women's thoughts and not just when they're convenient to you. Anyway, you also missed the part where I'm implying you're racist by projecting your own, western-influenced opinions on feminism onto all of Japan.

And just to keep this on topic: even Japanese players are cranky about this so stop pretending you're dying on this hill for them.

They have every right to be cranky. Gender-locked races are lame and I'm against it personally.

Again you're assuming I don't respect women, lol. If a man, or a woman, has a bad opinion, I won't agree with it. Pretty equal right?
Also it isn't racism XD It's nationalism. And yeah, Japan is in a very good place right now compared to the US and Europe.

[van_arn]

Even if they reverse it and they end up giving male Viera because of the overwhelming backlash from the community after us being lied to, misled and things being misrepresented in order to mask their sexism and blatant disregard for the community, I don't think I could justify supporting them so it's very possible I won't be coming back to FFXIV.

I read this, and I am constantly amazed at how forums are capable of convincing themselves of things that haven't been announced. This is a post of someone experiencing straight-up betrayal; a betrayal of a sandcastle they built up inside their own head.

[Gwenorai]

I'm also not going to quit over this, I have my Hyur. I have my Miqo'te - that isn't on steroids. Still, I would have liked male Viera. I would have liked female Hrothgar. I despise genderlocks, I hate them, even more, when there's a history of them already established and there seem to be no lessons learned from the past.

What it smells like is this is just going to be a repeat. They're running out of time to complete the game - they announced the lock. They plan to revoke the lock in the future with customer complaints; or not if the complaints aren't enough. That's the only silver lining I see.

I can't even be damned happy about Dancer even if it's my preferred type of dps - they're probably even more so upset about it than I am. Heck, I'm not even upset, just so baffled by the logic.

[Whimsical_Moose]

I cancelled my preoder and my subscription. I thought SE wouldn't make this gender-lock mistake after they fixed it post-1.0. If the issue is that male developers won't work on male viera (the reason why it took so long to get male bunny outfits in Golden Saucer) then fix the antiquated hiring practices at SE and hire more female developers. If SE can't be bothered to hire a diverse developer team and cater to the 40% female player-base who just want cute bunny boys then I regret the hundreds of dollars I already spent at SE's store and will happily move on to another franchise that does care about its fans. My issue with the lack of male viera isn't that I particularly wanted to play as one (although I had 5 fantasia saved up for playing around with male viera), but that the choice to not give the player-base male viera is just the developers once again ignoring what the female player-base wants and trying to cater to the straight, male player-base. Since companies only care about money, this is my only way to tell SE that their behavior is unacceptable.

[van_arn]

I understand that is hard to develop a race, but I think more of the community would have been happy than one full race with two genders instead of the two races one gender we're getting right now.

With this community? There would be a riot either way. Yoship went with what he wanted to, and this reaction pretty much makes sure "final race" is more final than what the forum might want to believe.

I cancelled my preoder and my subscription. I thought SE wouldn't make this gender-lock mistake after they fixed it post-1.0. If the issue is that male developers won't work on male viera (the reason why it took so long to get male bunny outfits in Golden Saucer) then fix the antiquated hiring practices at SE and hire more female developers. If SE can't be bothered to hire a diverse developer team and cater to the 40% female player-base who just want cute bunny boys then I regret the hundreds of dollars I already spent at SE's store and will happily move on to another franchise that does care about its fans. My issue with the lack of male viera isn't that I particularly wanted to play as one (although I had 5 fantasia saved up for playing around with male viera), but that the choice to not give the player-base male viera is just the developers once again ignoring what the female player-base wants and trying to cater to the straight, male player-base. Since companies only care about money, this is my only way to tell SE that their behavior is unacceptable.

One post, account created in 2019. Please don't lecture us on 1.0.

[Labyxt]

This (and no new healer announced *yet*) was extremely disappointing. I don't even mind Hrothgar, in fact my position during all this waiting was supporting both options to be added. I'm glad for who wanted something different and got it like they wanted. I'll probably even play around with the character creator but for sure won't change. But WHY the genderlock. Why we couldn't have this AND male Viera (and, well, female Hrothgar too). Why is male Viera something so uncomfortabloe that can't possibly be added into the game. Just, WHY.

[Endeleon]

I cancelled my preoder and my subscription. I thought SE wouldn't make this gender-lock mistake after they fixed it post-1.0. If the issue is that male developers won't work on male viera (the reason why it took so long to get male bunny outfits in Golden Saucer) then fix the antiquated hiring practices at SE and hire more female developers. If SE can't be bothered to hire a diverse developer team and cater to the 40% female player-base who just want cute bunny boys then I regret the hundreds of dollars I already spent at SE's store and will happily move on to another franchise that does care about its fans. My issue with the lack of male viera isn't that I particularly wanted to play as one (although I had 5 fantasia saved up for playing around with male viera), but that the choice to not give the player-base male viera is just the developers once again ignoring what the female player-base wants and trying to cater to the straight, male player-base. Since companies only care about money, this is my only way to tell SE that their behavior is unacceptable.

Can I ask how you cancelled it? I ordered on the SE NA shop and it's not letting me cancel my pre-order.

[Thefates]

With this community? There would be a riot either way. Yoship went with what he wanted to, and this reaction pretty much makes sure "final race" is more final than what the forum might want to believe.

Keep in mind. You can be happy or sad about getting a race you want. No one is happy about a genderlock though, the default reaction is indifference and it only goes downhill from there. Yes, there would be people disappointed by not getting Hrothgar or Viera, but there would be far less people so absolutely outraged.