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  1. #3631
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    KittenMittens's Avatar
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    The real reason we're not getting male Viera is that the developer has a prejudice against men looking a certain way. I thought they'd have learned by now with giving us male Miqo'te, female Roegadyn, and female Highlanders that people do not like gender locks.
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  2. #3632
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    Biddy Batnana
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I didn't think healer was a good fit unless they could innovate with a combo-based system.
    Yeah they could have added a stance that makes you DPS or HEAL. A new type of job. Idk.
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  3. #3633
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    I'm back. I prepared this in advance, and posting it as they are clapping for these ridiculous cat race. Let me first say this: I hate Hrothgar because they came at the cost of male Viera and I'm not going to forget this ever.

    Well it seems that they’ve gender-locked Viera and Hrothgar after all.
    How disgusting, sexist, and homophobic - still uncomfortable designing male bunnies huh? You know I’ve really come to see this all as an attack on my identity especially after several of my posts in this thread were reported and I was banned because apparently someone is upset that I was very vocal about why I want male Viera and the fanart I was posting? I’m not sorry about what I said back then and this attempt at silencing me failed.
    You know what would have been nice? Not being so secretive and being up front with us from the start, but no, they just had to cash in on everyone’s preorders before throwing this in our faces. This is why you cannot trust preorders these days at all. Thank god I had the foresight to not buy Shadowbringers. I can’t imagine that they would have refunded me. After all that I’ve seen I’ve come to the conclusion that this was a predatory tactic that took advantage of people’s trust, and they will go out of their way to silence anyone who speaks out against them. They are being anti-consumer and anti-player with the way they are behaving.
    So in the end, they lost the money I was about to spend on the expansion, my recurring subscription which I have canceled, and any other Mog Station related purchases I would have made for fantasias/outfits/mounts. I refuse to be taken advantage of and I refuse to blindly follow this game into the abyss it’s going to sink into at this rate.
    Good riddance and goodbye.

    I see that this game has shifted sides and is now against who I am and what I stand for so in response I see no other option but to abandon FFXIV. Since they’re using the lore to justify this, then so will I. If the lore states that male Viera aren’t playable, then I guess that means my character will just have to disappear.
    Goodbye.
    You are reading things into this that are simply not there. It's not about muh SJW demons to slay. I am unhappy with a lot of the design direction of the expansion, but let's not try turn this into another identity politics crusade. I doubt JP based devs are going to care much for it, when even growing numbers in the West find it to be tiresome and mostly nonsensical, myself included.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  4. #3634
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    All other issues aside, I just don't like the designs of the Hrothgar. Not just in a "would you personally play as this race?" way but just in terms of good character design. They look awkward.

    Sure, you can make it look "like Kimahri", but it's an ugly version of Kimahri. He looked fine as a character design. So are the Pantera characters people have been posting pictures of. But there's something off about Hrothgar and I don't like them from what I've seen so far.
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  5. #3635
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by KittenMittens View Post
    The real reason we're not getting male Viera is that the developer has a prejudice against men looking a certain way.
    They were never promised to look a 'certain way'.

    I would've preferred them to look more like Byakko, though I'm happy for those who like how they were designed.
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  6. #3636
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake200135 View Post
    Male Viera needs to be added. The Hrothgar are just as dumb looking as I expected them to be. They literally just slapped some fur and a lion head on a Roegadyn body and called it Hrothgar. It's one of the laziest characters designs I've seen in this game yet. Male Viera would have actually added something interesting and different to the game. :/
    Yeah male Miqo'te with bunny ears.
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  7. #3637
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    Aristotle Avinroo
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    I'm going to need to play with them in the character creator. In the stream footage you could hardly tell they had fur half the time! They just looked like Roegadyns wearing masks. Reminds me of King from Tekken. The concept art looked way better.
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  8. #3638
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    Rajesh Anand
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    They used lore as an excuse to not include playable male Viera, but the real reason is because they didn't want to, and they shaped the lore in a way to explain that. Female Hrothgar (a.k.a Ronso) exist, so why would they make Hrothgar male only?

    Hopefully fans will be able to convince them to eventually create playable male Viera and playable female Hrothgar. There's no need to genderlock them.

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  9. #3639
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    Thelind Fates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They were never promised to look a 'certain way'.
    He didn't say they were. He's saying that other people wanted that and he knows it's developer preference stopping it.
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  10. #3640
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Even if SE wants to hide behind the lore reasons for Viera. Ronso have females and there is no lore that says they're rare. That's absolutely stupid.

    That's completely hypocritical.
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