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  1. #11
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    Murugan's Avatar
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    Murugan Raj
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    No matter if you really did it or not. PGL only come as substitute.

    Does anybody recruit party with PGL in demand?
    Gla yes, Thm, yes, Cnj yes, Mrd previous, Lnc previous, when will PGL get the opportunity?
    You should dump your crappy endgame LS then.

    Why Pugilist is in demand for Ifrit for those groups who know how to fight it properly:

    Off Tank or Tanking
    As the person above pointed out the Pugilist having Taunt makes them an awesome off tank or probably even tank for Moogles.

    Burst Damage
    Howling fist is an amazing combo easily capable of over 1k damage. Bursting down moogles like the Pomburner is absolutely key, at least in our Moogle strat. We have a very skilled Pugilist who has proved that Pugilist carries his own weight in this fight and then some, and if I were forming a PUG I'd jump at the chance to have a talented Pugilist in the setup.

    If you have MP problems maybe don't leave fists of fire up the entire fight, it has a 10 second recast. You can toggle it off/on pretty easily during long fights. You also have Featherfoot (very useful for MP regen) and sucker punch.

    In my opinions Pugilists should be advocating SE for a switch from INT to PIE as their secondary attribute so that they can get more MP. Pugilists definitely could use some changes, but stop calling them worthless. You are only contributing to an existing ignorance about how mechanics in this game actually work.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    My LS uses PUG tanks in Moogle wins. Just sayin'
    It's nice that your linkshell will allow pgls to leech off their kills, but most linkshells do care about efficiency.
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  3. #13
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    Murugan Raj
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Isaveron View Post
    It's nice that your linkshell will allow pgls to leech off their kills, but most linkshells do care about efficiency.
    Says a person who is likely a total leech.

    Seriously if you can't see how a Pugilist can contribute to this fight, you are likely horrible at this game. I wouldn't invite you to a party.
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  4. #14
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    Even Moggle Mog didn't want a Pugilist in the party.
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  5. #15
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    My LS had PUG tanked Ifrit.
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    I don't think any class is so worthless that a skilled player can't outshine an average player who's using the "optimal" class.
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  7. #17
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    Hazel Hargreaves
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    Ragnarok
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    So guys, gladiator and marauder are supposed to be the two main tanks currently in the game, but if i listen to you (haven't tried it myself) this is in fact the pugilist who is the best tank.

    And everything seems fine to you ?
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  8. #18
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    Sylkis Tea
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    Sophia
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaedhen View Post
    So guys, gladiator and marauder are supposed to be the two main tanks currently in the game, but if i listen to you (haven't tried it myself) this is in fact the pugilist who is the best tank.

    And everything seems fine to you ?
    best offensive tank which is exactly what moogle fight needs.
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  9. #19
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    Deli Denkryst
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    Goldsmith Lv 70
    +1 for howling fist combo.
    I constantly doing 1k+ just on howling fist on L50ish mobs. I really have no idea why people think it still weak.

    I miss a lot tho XD so is my other DD jobs
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  10. #20
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deli View Post
    +1 for howling fist combo.
    I constantly doing 1k+ just on howling fist on L50ish mobs. I really have no idea why people think it still weak.

    I miss a lot tho XD so is my other DD jobs
    Accuracy is a non-issue in boss fights due to to their strange lack of evasion and the full party buff. I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss anything.
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