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    Alise's Avatar
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    Alise Reinhart
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    Another patch for worthless PGL

    In Party aspect :
    As I mention before 1.20 when I look at the ability which look like jack of all trade. I predicted that PGL will continue to be useless in any PT set up for boss battle. So I asked SE to take some look into it. Most answer says "wait until patch release"
    And now with one weeks pass after patch release, nobody care to recruit a PGL at all. This proved what I said was right. I wonder if SE intend to make this class just useless forever? (it has been useless since 1.18 fight already)


    In solo aspect :
    the fist of elemental mode are all consume MP too much. and as PGL it is hard to regen mp during battle. (featherfoot is not enough to regen mp at all, consider how much mp consume.) It turn out that it is easier for me to finish leve as MRD or LNC, because of the waiting time to regen mp for PGL skill, and the damage output that seem to better still. This also make PGL worse of a solo class.

    Conclusion : PGL is not the best class to solo, and also not wanted in party, can we just remove this class ? <,< SE.. please make it useful...

    *Anybody who agree that PGl need more love please like this thread*
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    Last edited by Alise; 12-22-2011 at 04:44 PM.

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    Nadja Zielle
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    I feel your pain, I have very little use for my pgl and it was my first 50. Now Im stuck mage in everything. Trying to get lnc and arc to 50, both as sooo close
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    pgl is not useless you need to try something different cuz you doing it wrong. i love pgl i have no problems soloing since launch day i still use it. you probly have all att & str to solo, you need evasion and you'll barly get hit and if you haymaker mobs they go down fast for 250tp or combo--pounce(behind), concussive blow(side), howling fist(side) and yes you can do it solo the mobs dont turn around asap.

    since 1.20 i can hits as hard as a mrd & lnc with stone or flame fist depending on the mob and i get tp faster. if you want that one big hit every WS go lancer and doom spike everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    pgl is not useless you need to try something different cuz you doing it wrong. i love pgl i have no problems soloing since launch day i still use it. you probly have all att & str to solo, you need evasion and you'll barly get hit and if you haymaker mobs they go down fast for 250tp or combo--pounce(behind), concussive blow(side), howling fist(side) and yes you can do it solo the mobs dont turn around asap.

    since 1.20 i can hits as hard as a mrd & lnc with stone or flame fist depending on the mob and i get tp faster. if you want that one big hit every WS go lancer and doom spike everything.


    Doubtful that a pgl can out tp a lancer, thats just silly >_>
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    Alise Reinhart
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    My main is PGL, and I always get all the best gear set for PGL first. I was also in top-10 list in FFpro for first to max PGL R50.
    But now I always stuck using something else and keep PGL (best) gears in storage.

    I m sure, PGL won't out do LNC, and so do Monk to Dragoon in regard of both Dps and spike damage. (unless SE view change)


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    Last edited by Alise; 12-21-2011 at 01:50 PM.

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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    [COLOR=darkred]In Party aspect :
    As I mention before 1.20 when I look at the ability which look like jack of all trade. I predicted that PGL will continue to be useless in any PT set up for boss battle. So I asked SE to take some look into it. Most answer says "wait until patch release"
    And now with one weeks pass after patch release, nobody care to recruit a PGL at all. This proved what I said was right. I wonder if SE intend to make this class just useless forever? (it has been useless since 1.18 fight already)
    My LS uses PUG tanks in Moogle wins. Just sayin'
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    thats your ls, welcome to palamecia, where everyone wants archer or gtfo, very rarely do you get the opportunity to differ from the mainstream strat..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    My LS uses PUG tanks in Moogle wins. Just sayin'
    No matter if you really did it or not. PGL only come as substitute.

    Does anybody recruit party with PGL in demand?
    Gla yes, Thm, yes, Cnj yes, Mrd previous, Lnc previous, when will PGL get the opportunity?
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    Last edited by Alise; 12-21-2011 at 04:49 PM.

    FFXIV : ARR all instance boss gameplay video can be found here..
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    Daddy Dufresh
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    Have you geared ur PUG with magic stats and materia since the patch to get the added DMG?
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    Sylkis Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    No matter if you really did it or not. PGL only come as substitute.

    Does anybody recruit party with PGL in demand?
    Gla yes, Thm, yes, Cnj yes, Mrd previous, Lnc previous, when will PGL get the opportunity?
    PGL is better than GLA for the moogle fight. People only moved away from GLA for tank last patch because it didn't block.
    Blame it on conventions if PGL is unwanted , not patch.

    As for soloing , I find PGL to be the strongest because of their evasion and counterattack. Plus, they can solo combo all their skills due to a cheap stun move.
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    Last edited by Sylkis; 12-21-2011 at 05:55 PM.

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