Baldesion Arsenal and new ToS Combo

[Physic]

Let me reiterate. You pull together 100 or so people to open BA. Around half are able to get in. Do you stay to finish the fate or run off ahead to try and grab the portal? If you fail to get into BA what is your incentive to stay for the support fate?

They have set up an environment that is exclusionary by design. The design incentivizes people to behave in ways that Square says they don't want them to behave in. So which should I listen to? Their PR department or the reality of the environment they have created?

If I want to do content with a premade... why can't we just queue in as a premade? Also, why did the content need to be gated behind a hellish grind?

because the content is for any players interested, if it becomes premade only its only for certain communities. Which is what discord created in NA. i guess they should have made pre organizing impossible, nor sure thats possible though. We ll see what the next iteration does. Might be fc only again.


edit: also in a anyone can enter meta, the reason to do support is for a chance to get in.

[WaterShield]

because the content is for any players interested, if it becomes premade only its only for certain communities. Which is what discord created in NA. i guess they should have made pre organizing impossible, nor sure thats possible though. We ll see what the next iteration does. Might be fc only again.

I think you may be misunderstanding part of what I've said. Why do you believe premade should be made impossible?

I'm directly asking for the ability to preform and then queue directly in BA with no outside interaction with other players.... meaning sniping is now impossible and solo players never have to encounter a premade unless they seek them out.

Alternatively you could solo queue up for it by using... duty finder.

TLDR version: Portals are stupid. PF and DF aren't broken, don't replace them.

Edit: Also people sticking around to fight the game AND EACH OTHER for a second even smaller set of chances to enter content... is terrible. It's not accessible and does not promote cooperation.

BA portals = Hunger Games. "May the odds be ever in your favor"

[Deceptus]

If SE would simply allow BA Fragments to be obtained outside of BA it would allow people to get the extra elemental defense needed to actually beat BA without having to resort to convoluted Discords.

Currently in order to make BA easier (get fragments and gear up), you have to do BA. That needs to end. There needs to be an alternative way to do it. But this is SE we're talking about here. They take the simplest thing and make it as convoluted as possible then blame the player base: "You're not doing it right".

Get rid of the 56 person dungeon where you can't even see the enemy skills going off.

Get rid of the 56 person dungeon where you're screwed if you are a DOT class due to boss DOT cap.

Re-balance it as a 24 man dungeon.

[Physic]

I think you may be misunderstanding part of what I've said. Why do you believe premade should be made impossible?

I'm directly asking for the ability to preform and then queue directly in BA with no outside interaction with other players.... meaning sniping is now impossible and solo players never have to encounter a premade unless they seek them out.

Alternatively you could solo queue up for it by using... duty finder.

TLDR version: Portals are stupid. PF and DF aren't broken, don't replace them.

pf and df are fine, but they are not trying to be public dungeons. With eureka and BA they were trying to design public instances/dungeons. They wanted content anyone who gets in the instance can attempt, by working with the people there. BA was meant to be an endgame level extension and climax of eureka.

point is the goal wasnt just to create a large scale dungeon, it was to create a public dungeon as an extension of Eureka. The succeeded in japan, they failed in NA.

right now, most people, who arent willing to be hated or ostracized cannot take part in BA without joining a specific community and following their rules. The discord types were meant to be integrated with the randoms.

[Deceptus]

right now, most people, who arent willing to be hated or ostracized cannot take part in BA without joining a specific community and following their rules. The discord types were meant to be integrated with the randoms.

The only reason those Discords even became a thing is because SE made it as difficult as possible to organize people into what is supposed to be extremely difficult content.

There's a reason other MMO's such as World of Warcraft abandoned the large raids (40 man). They're a literal pain in the @$$ to organize, prep, and maintain.

The world has moved on, but for some reason, SE decided to go to the past for this iteration of Eureka. They brought some of the worst aspect with them. If people wanted to play FFXI and everything that came with it (good and bad), they's still be playing FFXI.

[Alucard135]

The only reason those Discords even became a thing is because SE made it as difficult as possible to organize people into what is supposed to be extremely difficult content.

Wanna hear a joke? Companion app.

[Physic]

ba is not designed that you need to clear BA to progress. Runs are supposed to be firing all the time, making various levels of progress. If you get to twins you get some fragments, if you beat raiden, 12 frag, etc. it is designed that the playerbase makes progress, until eventually, like 24 mans, its easy because people are geared.

the main problem here, is people only do BA in discord, which requires 1-2 hours more set up than BA was designed to have. And use of outside software and voice chat . Many players simply dont have the desire or time to approach it that way.

yes some BA attempts fail to clear, but you still make progress. You definitely dont need a perfect comp to make progress

[WaterShield]

The only reason those Discords even became a thing is because SE made it as difficult as possible to organize people into what is supposed to be extremely difficult content.

There's a reason other MMO's such as World of Warcraft abandoned the large raids (40 man). They're a literal pain in the @$$ to organize, prep, and maintain.

The world has moved on, but for some reason, SE decided to go to the past for this iteration of Eureka. They brought some of the worst aspect with them.

Thank you!

This person gets it.

[Physic]

The only reason those Discords even became a thing is because SE made it as difficult as possible to organize people into what is supposed to be extremely difficult content.

There's a reason other MMO's such as World of Warcraft abandoned the large raids (40 man). They're a literal pain in the @$$ to organize, prep, and maintain.

The world has moved on, but for some reason, SE decided to go to the past for this iteration of Eureka. They brought some of the worst aspect with them. If people wanted to play FFXI and everything that came with it (good and bad), they's still be playing FFXI.

you dont need to organize for BA. you are supposed to jump in, then organize based on what you have in there. Thats why there is a lobby area. Sometimes you are going to beat it and sometimes you wont, you re enter and try again, and you do events and grind if you lose exp. Its not that hard, people do it 2-3 times and they learn.

the NA mindset is that they are supposed to pre organize, you are literally not supposed to, that is why its so hard to pre organize, its not supposed to happen.

its the same reason overpasses are too low for large trucks, its because they didnt want large trucks on those roads. Its hard for premades because its not supposed to have premades.

this is not like 40 man wow raids, because its not supposed to be a group organizing a raid, its supposed to be a natural extension of people in the instance, like fates are.

[Adrestia]

you dont need to organize for BA. you are supposed to jump in, then organize based on what you have in there. Thats why there is a lobby area. Sometimes you are going to beat it and sometimes you wont, you re enter and try again, and you do events and grind if you lose exp. Its not that hard, people do it 2-3 times and they learn.

the NA mindset is that they are supposed to pre organize, you are literally not supposed to, that is why its so hard to pre organize, its not supposed to happen.

its the same reason overpasses are too low for large trucks, its because they didnt want large trucks on those roads. Its hard for premades because its not supposed to have premades.

this is not like 40 man wow raids, because its not supposed to be a group organizing a raid, its supposed to be a natural extension of people in the instance, like fates are.

You've been saying this for days. Can you explain to us how a raid that only gets 4 tanks and 5 healers is supposed to kill Ozma?

Or is it your perception that some raids are doomed to fail due to an untenable comp and we should just live with that?