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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Actually curious on how it's out there. I mean it doesn't matter regardless of what it is, male Viera - Hrothgar, etc. I expect to know what I'm buying - or at least what the 'minimum' is to be expected in regards to a playable race. So far they've stated the minimum 'the females' but there's no disclaimer so far to stating that it's the 'maximum' and therefore it's female only. If a race is something that has to be technically paid for to unlock then I want to know what I'm getting.

    No, this isn't some hard stance argument that they 'must' state it. This isn't rabble rabble, SE is breaking the law, because they're more than likely not. But from what I recall, disclaimers need to be slapped down on questionable things. Always has been. The only clout this brings is that if someone is peeved off after preordering now and using their 'earring' and 'minion' after their early preorder is that they can bring up a complaint regarding it.

    As for their advertising, at worse, I find it shady - more than likely due to the fact people can't back out of their preorders now due to the 'earring' and 'minion' usage. At best the lack of a disclaimer is interesting.
    This point has been brought up before. There are things they keep hidden until they release every expansion. Like we still don't know if Dancer is coming, or what the raid is or ultimates or job changes etc. For anyone who preordered for the bonuses only, that's on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    This point has been brought up before. There are things they keep hidden until they release every expansion. Like we still don't know if Dancer is coming, or what the raid is or ultimates or job changes etc. For anyone who preordered for the bonuses only, that's on them.
    Aye, that's the kicker with MMOs - they get a different set of 'rules' and their butts covered. While your ordinary game, they pulled this crap out and it wouldn't work at all. Aye, we don't know about 'Dancer' - ultimates etc. Of course, they're not using those as an advertisement centre point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Aye, that's the kicker with MMOs - they get a different set of 'rules' and their butts covered. While your ordinary game, they pulled this crap out and it wouldn't work at all. Aye, we don't know about 'Dancer' - ultimates etc. Of course, they're not using those as an advertisement centre point.
    I mean, right on the Shadowbringers page "New jobs" "Gunbreaker... and more" In fact, almost everything posted as features of Shadowbringers we know next to nothing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean, right on the Shadowbringers page "New jobs" "Gunbreaker... and more" In fact, almost everything posted as features of Shadowbringers we know next to nothing about.
    This is sounding more and more like a cautious tale on why you shouldn't preorder xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    This is sounding more and more like a cautious tale on why you shouldn't preorder xD
    Yeah, I mean I preorder this game regardless because I love playing it and will ALWAYS get my 40 dollars worth. But in general, don't preorder if you are only interested in playing the new race lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    The people who play female toons only do so because they lack a real thin "feminine" male counterpart to do so from what I know from first hand experience,
    "The people who play female toons" is way too broad a generalisation to be drawing here.

    "Your friends who play female toons", sure. But not "people".

    There are plenty of reasons to pick a female character, and I greatly doubt the majority of them are "it's a poor substitute for the male character design I actually wanted".



    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    au ra /think emote intensifies
    I see what you did there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "The people who play female toons" is way too broad a generalisation to be drawing here.

    "Your friends who play female toons", sure. But not "people".

    There are plenty of reasons to pick a female character, and I greatly doubt the majority of them are "it's a poor substitute for the male character design I actually wanted".
    "The female BL community" I guess would be more accurate, this game has a pretty huge following with that sort of community on twitter, both JP and Western especially among JP artist from what a friend of mine has painstakingly made me aware of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    ....can....can we have both, please?

    (also as a fellow artist, signatures, people!)
    Both is good I'd like both https://www.weibo.com/u/6442021670?r...5014_&is_hot=1 also here I don't know if this artist has a twitter or anything like that. Sadly i don't think I was able to find the source for the ronso image with a plain google search.
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