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  1. #19541
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    I'll probably give diurnal a second shot in 4 man content

    tho i didn't encounter a problem using noct that much especially in pulls where i can apply Eye for an eye with it.And if a tank knows how to use their cooldowns(and I've met a good number of tanks that do from level 50 beyond ...thank god)I can comfortably dps the mobs and come back to heal the tank by casting essential dignity or benefic 2 once they're around 50% HP or close to it

    True Noct has its shortcomings I realize that....probably its my weird dumb luck that it somehow worked better for me than diurnal xD
    Just wait unti you take Noct AST into 8-man and 24-man content. You’ll see what I mean about MP efficiency lol. It doesn’t take long in there, even with an alliance that doesn’t eat stupid, stand in the stupid, or die to the stupid. I usually roll Noct with a WHM, but I’m getting to a point where, if it’s not someone I know on WHM, I’m just going to Diurnal for the regens. Especially for Mr. Ranged who has to stand outside of my 15-yalm healing radius. T^T

    I get spoiled on WHM though with mana. Makes me really miss HW AST, where its MP efficiency was the best of all 3. Now we’re the worst lol. Every Ewer on myself is sacrificing an AOE card for the party. ;-; (Though, if my party sucks, I care less and less about this.)
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  2. #19542
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Just wait unti you take Noct AST into 8-man and 24-man content. You’ll see what I mean about MP efficiency lol. It doesn’t take long in there, even with an alliance that doesn’t eat stupid, stand in the stupid, or die to the stupid. I usually roll Noct with a WHM, but I’m getting to a point where, if it’s not someone I know on WHM, I’m just going to Diurnal for the regens. Especially for Mr. Ranged who has to stand outside of my 15-yalm healing radius. T^T

    I get spoiled on WHM though with mana. Makes me really miss HW AST, where its MP efficiency was the best of all 3. Now we’re the worst lol. Every Ewer on myself is sacrificing an AOE card for the party. ;-; (Though, if my party sucks, I care less and less about this.)
    I only use diurnal in 8 man and alliance raids unless I have a white mage in the party then i go noct........with the exception of my last run of Circus Tower where our white mage kept dying and I solo healed almost half of amon and all of Xande lol.
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  3. #19543
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    I only use diurnal in 8 man and alliance raids unless I have a white mage in the party then i go noct........with the exception of my last run of Circus Tower where our white mage kept dying and I solo healed almost half of amon and all of Xande lol.
    Pardon, I should have elaborated: current 8-man/24-man content. The old stuff is, sadly, trivial enough now that you won’t feel MP issues unless you are poorly managing your Lucid/Lucid+COpp. Noct in Orbonne can be brutal, though. Especially if your co-healer is asleep at the wheel.
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  4. #19544
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Pardon, I should have elaborated: current 8-man/24-man content. The old stuff is, sadly, trivial enough now that you won’t feel MP issues unless you are poorly managing your Lucid/Lucid+COpp. Noct in Orbonne can be brutal, though. Especially if your co-healer is asleep at the wheel.
    True(healing dun scaith is still hell on Deathgaze and Diabolos tho as people keep dying on the death puddle and the aero knockback)

    I'll try to heal orbonne once I get to 70...tho I admit I'm not looking forward to heal on cidulfus
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  5. #19545
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvlagmarink View Post
    This happened a few weeks ago in Alphascape 4.0, I was tanking as dark and pulled without countdown after healers casted protect on the party..
    Suddenly, one of the bard complained that the tank (me) is a retard.. and the reason stated was because I pulled boss too fast that the party didn't have time to get ready..

    PHP Code:
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    ri-​ˈtärd  \ : a holding back or slowing down 
    This is a valid complaint, calling names isn't. Some people need/want to pre-cast their openers or swap things around. I know it's casual content, but also 10 seconds-ish countdown wouldn't hurt anyone.

    Also, just as a quick note, the word you mention has a pejorative meaning as well. Like many words, they may hold many meanings.
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 03-16-2019 at 09:28 PM.

  6. #19546
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    Yesterday was quite weird for mentor roullette for me xD.

    I queue for mentor roullette as a Dark Knight and of all things to pop up ...I get Ultima Weapon EX with almost every one in the instance being new

    What surprised me is that not a single one left the instance or even initiated a vote abandon after 7 or so wipes which leads me to believe everyone except me there were new and they probably don't wanna let the long queue go to waste(if someone there wasn't new let me know if u were there with me)

    I teach them the fight throughout our pulls including telling the off tank to swap once one of us reach 3 to 4 stacks and having the off tank(me or him depending on our stack) pick the orbs with at least 1 or 2 DPS before the orbs collide and we eventually did it after the 8th pull.

    I got 4 comms out of it and half the party thank me for it ^_^.

    I forgot how much fun Ultima EX was .......though after this and titan ex before it....I'll just be ready to expect ex primals most of the times i queue for mentor roullette as a tank xD
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  7. #19547
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalSnakeXI1 View Post
    True(healing dun scaith is still hell on Deathgaze and Diabolos tho as people keep dying on the death puddle and the aero knockback)

    I'll try to heal orbonne once I get to 70...tho I admit I'm not looking forward to heal on cidulfus
    Healing TGC actually isn’t as difficult; mostly just taking care of the tank since he’s getting auto’d and hoping the person marked with Crush Weapon doesn’t run into you. Cleansing Strike is really easy—I prep an Earthly Star > detonate after we’re all reduced to 1 > LS > Helios (one or two, depends on if my cohealer is picking their nose or not). I find Ultima to be the hardest to heal actually, because people get so spread out, and then you have the Holy IV AOEs + the ground AOEs and people stack them/don’t pay attention, and it’s like “okay” as they fall over.
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  8. #19548
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    Hmm, I've been leveling my AST and was starting to notice NOCT aspect was starting to bottom me out mana-wise. Was thinkin' I was doing something wrong. Guess I'll switch back.

    I was going NOCT as I main Scholar - shielding is kinda my thing. Obviously not the best choice for the casual content I typically run.
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  9. #19549
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    I know it's casual content, but also 10 seconds-ish countdown wouldn't hurt anyone.
    I respect tanks who do pull timers in casual content so much more. Even 8 seconds or something.

    I really dislike the general attitude "it's easy content who cares" and by rushing in and playing poorly they actually slow the run down overall and make what should be easy content difficult.
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  10. #19550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I respect tanks who do pull timers in casual content so much more. Even 8 seconds or something.

    I really dislike the general attitude "it's easy content who cares" and by rushing in and playing poorly they actually slow the run down overall and make what should be easy content difficult.
    Agreed. 100%.

    As a tank myself I have a 10 seconds countdown for people willing to use pre-buffs, Diversion, stuff like that. I've seen tanks pulling as soon as the barriers go down, getting people that were unprepared killed by early mechanics. This is also true in dungeons, when the tank sprints into the boss' room and pulls it with no regards of the healer's MP or if the DPS are there yet. I always say that pulling bosses that fast doesn't make you a good tank, but an inconsiderate one.
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 03-16-2019 at 11:44 PM.

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