Baldesion Arsenal Feedback

[alimdia]

They are indeed 24 man level of mechanics, what makes it harsh is that they do much more damage than 24 man mechanics, that you can't be raised normally and that it's easier to kill other people or not meet enrage DPS check if you fail mechanics (24 mans have no enrage). I don't think there has ever been a 24 man run where no one did any mistakes no matter how minor, and this is what makes it hard to fully pug, in NA/EU at least.

[Deceptus]

They are indeed 24 man level of mechanics, what makes it harsh is that they do much more damage than 24 man mechanics, that you can't be raised normally and that it's easier to kill other people or not meet enrage DPS check if you fail mechanics (24 mans have no enrage).

By definition, content that is "much harder than" something else isn't that. If it's "Much Harder" than a 24 man, it's not 24 man level content. It's a tier higher. It might be O9S level, but it's still savage level.

its not meant to be premade content. job roles are less important due to logos options, and you dont need to have a winning run every time. I hear it scales down to at least 24, fight knowledge is supposed to be shared by those who know.

Nope. Running less than 6 tanks is going to lead to a bad time. Running less than 6 healers is going to lead to a bad time.

[HyoMinPark]

By definition, content that is "much harder than" something else isn't that. If it's "Much Harder" than a 24 man, it's not 24 man level content. It's a tier higher. It might be O9S level, but it's still savage level.

It's only Savage-level because of your 55 stacks of People Debuff. Mechanically, the fights aren't hard.

But, I forget people struggled with Vanilla Ozma. And that was only with 23 stacks of People Debuff!

[RitsukoSonoda]

It's only Savage-level because of your 55 stacks of People Debuff. Mechanically, the fights aren't hard.

But, I forget people struggled with Vanilla Ozma. And that was only with 23 stacks of People Debuff!

Funny enough my first Ozma wipe happened about 6 weeks after that 24 man duty was added. Oddly those seem to go so much smoother for me when they first come out and I do them on patch day. Maybe its cause more of the players queueing actually observe and learn what is going on and actively think?

[HyoMinPark]

Funny enough my first Ozma wipe happened about 6 weeks after that 24 man duty was added. Oddly those seem to go so much smoother for me when they first come out and I do them on patch day. Maybe its cause more of the players queueing actually observe and learn what is going on and actively think?

I remember vividly wiping during Week 2 to Ozma. And that's only because of how salty the chat got from those who had done it already versus those that had not (I think that I might have even referenced it in my first ever forum post in the Tales of the DF thread). Inevitably, it gets worse. Kind of like Orbonne - my Day 1 run where everyone was blind wasn't as bad as some of the ones I've had recently. The mechanics aren't hard, but people don't want to pay attention. And some think you can ignore the mechanics, because that's what you can do in most of the dungeons.

[Crushnight]

I remember vividly wiping during Week 2 to Ozma. And that's only because of how salty the chat got from those who had done it already versus those that had not (I think that I might have even referenced it in my first ever forum post in the Tales of the DF thread). Inevitably, it gets worse. Kind of like Orbonne - my Day 1 run where everyone was blind wasn't as bad as some of the ones I've had recently. The mechanics aren't hard, but people don't want to pay attention. And some think you can ignore the mechanics, because that's what you can do in most of the dungeons.

Its something this game sorely lacks at the lower difficulty of content, these need not be strict in any way but they do need to start making players accountable they could be like need 1k dps minimum to clear a 1v1 story instance or add enrages to dungeon bosses that have a timer between 8 to 10 mins and have job quests that require basic rotation that are mandatory(as in you cannot queue into say Ala Mhigo without having done your lv70 job quest) to enter max level content

[Physic]

depends on the skills, gear, and adaptability of the people involved. But, i would say its harder to run with less than 6 healers than it is to run with less than 6 tanks.