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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Saying an ability that requires winning the RNG lottery to even work is a good way to show you don't know what broken means. Those RNG-based abilities don't even work on things that they would be worth using them on. And sometimes they just don't work on things that they actually should like the boss for the Lazy For You FATE or B ranks.

    CC abilities don't even work on bosses beyond a certain point or just straight up don't work period. There's a reason no one cares that BLM has sleep and why no job ability wishlist thread includes CC abilities. Or why the ranged physical DPS abilities are seen mostly as being terrible.



    White Winds effectiveness is reduced by raid wide damage and invalidated by anything that reduces HP to critical levels. Something no healer has to worry about it.

    BLU in no way has the survivability of a tank. With a full i130 left side, it doesn't even have 5100 HP, something no other caster has to worry about it and certainly no tank. Tanks also have the luxury of not gimping their damage output to use defensive abilities. Most bosses resist status ailments, so there goes that.

    You're stanning for BLU only by looking at it from what content is "available" to it which is content people who actually wanted to take the job into current content (not you) don't care about. If BLU came about five years ago there would be merit to what you're saying, but as it is now, Peculiar Light is basically the only thing that an argument could be made for.
    blu mage is about tactics and knowing your skills and enemies. for example, aoe in a raid supposed to do large damage to all, blu does diamondback, cancels it, then does white wind, full heal the whole raid.

    7 blues in a raid? probably only have to get boss to 30% health to kill it with self desctruct damage combo. And status effects do matter, like 10% dmg reduction, slow, paralyze, blind, silence, 3 stuns, etc. I have literally took blu places other jobs couldnt hack it, and this is just a level 50 blu, with level 50 skills and multipliers.

    its very strong and versatile for that level range. and it definitely would negate roles in parties, 4 blue dont need a tank, or a healer to do content, they can probably outspeed run a regular team. that alone means they dont fit in regular parties, and if they did make them a regular dps, hey have to take away all that stuff, as well as make them generic instead of tactical.

    theres ton of other dps for that normal dps playstyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    blu mage is about tactics and knowing your skills and enemies. for example, aoe in a raid supposed to do large damage to all, blu does diamondback, cancels it, then does white wind, full heal the whole raid.

    7 blues in a raid? probably only have to get boss to 30% health to kill it with self desctruct damage combo. And status effects do matter, like 10% dmg reduction, slow, paralyze, blind, silence, 3 stuns, etc. I have literally took blu places other jobs couldnt hack it, and this is just a level 50 blu, with level 50 skills and multipliers.

    its very strong and versatile for that level range. and it definitely would negate roles in parties, 4 blue dont need a tank, or a healer to do content, they can probably outspeed run a regular team. that alone means they dont fit in regular parties, and if they did make them a regular dps, hey have to take away all that stuff, as well as make them generic instead of tactical.

    theres ton of other dps for that normal dps playstyle.

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    "I've done things with BLU like totally ignore everyone else refuting my bogus claims." ~You.

    If BLU was this world ending job as you say it is, Reddit would have several threads of all BLU Coil clears, but instead there are none.

    Stan for BLU all you want, senpai still won't notice you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    "I've done things with BLU like totally ignore everyone else refuting my bogus claims." ~You.

    If BLU was this world ending job as you say it is, Reddit would have several threads of all BLU Coil clears, but instead there are none.

    Stan for BLU all you want, senpai still won't notice you.
    What coils are you referring to? I'm assuming you're talking about level 50 coils and not UcoB? Since those moves don't actually work if you're below the level of the enemy, you have to be above their level or equal to. Which explains some of it I suppose. Not sure why they don't just have a lot of bosses have one hit K-O immunity.

    Some enemies are immune to these moves; a lot aren't. Example; I can solo 'go-go-chimeria' the huge boss fate in Thanalan with Doom.
    Anyway; enemy immunity. Hit n miss.


    ¬_¬ You must be talking about level 50 coils I can't imagine anyone making that comparison for Ucob - derp herp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    What coils are you referring to? I'm assuming you're talking about level 50 coils and not UcoB? Since those moves don't actually work if you're below the level of the enemy, you have to be above their level or equal to. Some enemies are immune to these moves; a lot aren't. Example; I can solo 'go-go-chimeria' the huge boss fate in Thanalan with Doom.
    Anyway; enemy immunity. Hit n miss.
    Good, for you. I won the RNG lottery and did the same.

    Still garbage because what do you know, something that's unreliable isn't good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Good, for you. I won the RNG lottery and did the same.

    Still garbage because what do you know, something that's unreliable isn't good.
    Ain't a need to get overly defensive about it either. Can't ignore the fact it works since Doom can be spammed until it works or you run out of MP, least with fates you can run away and disengage to get MP back. Shrugs. Need to remove those one hit K.Os if its to be an actual class - just have them be >30% extra moves that don't one hit K.O. And a lot of the status effects abilities need to be nerfed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    "I've done things with BLU like totally ignore everyone else refuting my bogus claims." ~You.

    If BLU was this world ending job as you say it is, Reddit would have several threads of all BLU Coil clears, but instead there are none.

    Stan for BLU all you want, senpai still won't notice you.
    because, why would there be blu clears, when you can do level 70 clears more easily? i never said blu is stronger than level 70 classes, i said it breaks game rules compared to other 50s, like needing healers, needing tanks, trivializing bosses, etc.

    why you mad bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    because, why would there be blu clears, when you can do level 70 clears more easily? i never said blu is stronger than level 70 classes, i said it breaks game rules compared to other 50s, like needing healers, needing tanks, trivializing bosses, etc.

    why you mad bro?
    BLU is garbage as both a tank and a healer. It's barely passable as a DPS.

    What bosses it does trivialize if you win the RNG lottery are dungeon bosses which who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    BLU is garbage as both a tank and a healer. It's barely passable as a DPS.

    What bosses it does trivialize if you win the RNG lottery are dungeon bosses which who cares?


    Slight Disagree with you though on the passable dps, if you have the patience to get the primal skills, its actually a pretty good support dps with good aoe. Ironically its meant to be the "solo" job though so being a good support dps is basically irrelevant.
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