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  1. #2861
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    In the same vein, considering there's been no response to this thread despite multitudes more pages on it, goes to show that page count means squat.
    That's a completely false trail of logic. Yoshi himself said there's still the Tokyo FanFest - there is absolutely zero reason to reply to this thread given that an answer - for better or worse - will likely come at the end of the month.
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  2. #2862
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Exactly this. It isn't a problem with Hrothgar itself. The problem is the situation that they've created around them. I don't understand why Yoshi would intentionally sour the waters for Hrothgar like this when he had to know this would be the result. That's why I've still got hope there is more to it than the leaks would have us believe. :v
    Imagine that race dude. Imagine being created with a forced narrative that writes them into a corner that can't be expanded upon without a good old retcon. To me Hrothgar wasn't created because someone was super excited and just had this brain spark in their own time that wasn't forced; it was brought up because in some board meeting someone slammed their hand down and went; 'You know what, rabbit men are weird - I don't like them. I know we have the art and the lore, but - yeah, it's just not something I'm super into. We can't just release a female only race though and that's it. We're going to need a race that has males. Of course, we've got limited time and resources; so might be best we gender-lock them as well. Can someone make that please?'

    Wham; now we have a race that is created to not hit the points of 'male viera' because - 'that would be weird'; we're getting 'Anti-Male Viera'.

    Or so my aggressively angry mind believes; rabble RABBLE RABBLE
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  3. #2863
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Weren't those simply Viera children? You're right that they did seem to be very early in the cycle.
    Possibly? I've seen most people assume they're the "feol" or whatever race. I think you're the first I've seen to assume children lol. Probably because children are pretty rare in this game.
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  4. #2864
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    That's a completely false trail of logic. Yoshi himself said there's still the Tokyo FanFest - there is absolutely zero reason to reply to this thread given that an answer - for better or worse - will likely come at the end of the month.
    Yeah he said that, my point was that he responded to something about Eureka where people are assuming there's not that much outrage and yet despite this thread having this many pages, since it's the same few people posting, it's really inflated how big the issue seems. I would think despite him giving a sly answer at an interview, there would be SOME kind of response by now if it was as big as people are making it out to be.
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  5. #2865
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    I only see complaints about Eureka and Blue mage on this forum mostly
    but people asking about and for male viera is on just about everything ff14 related The facebook,twitter,many artist on pixv,tumblr etc etc

    definitely depends how the thread plays out the day of tokyo fan fest and im sure there are many on this forum waiting to say there opinion when its confirmed locked or not
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  6. #2866
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Wham; now we have a race that is created to not hit the points of 'male viera' because - 'that would be weird'; we're getting 'Anti-Male Viera'.
    I mean, that's kinda exactly what it would be lol. I would definitely want a female version of a Lion race, but if they're just the male race this go around, I'm not gonna be upset about it. I personally don't want the feminine male Viera some people in this thread want. I want a more masculine race because the Au'Ra run goofy and the Roe look goofy. If I get that, cool. Even if it isn't the same race as female Viera. I don't worry about the lore because I'm not super knowledgeable about it, and it seems people think the lore doesn't really matter anyway (male miqo, whm/drk etc).
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  7. #2867
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I would think despite him giving a sly answer at an interview, there would be SOME kind of response by now if it was as big as people are making it out to be.
    There was a response - wait for the Tokyo FanFest.
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  8. #2868
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Don't forget that if the Viera is genderlocked; then Hrothgar would have simply been added due to the developers - or rather Yoshida and possibly Yasumi - not wanting male Viera seen because of the idea that rabbit men are weird; a backwards viewpoint in this day and age.
    That's an entirely different can of worms. Non-Western countries are not obligated to conform to the exact same cultural standards as Western countries.
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  9. #2869
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Possibly? I've seen most people assume they're the "feol" or whatever race. I think you're the first I've seen to assume children lol. Probably because children are pretty rare in this game.
    No, I also assumed they were a subrace but someone pointed out they're probably just children, and tbh, it does fit. Feol weren't particularly child-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Possibly? I've seen most people assume they're the "feol" or whatever race. I think you're the first I've seen to assume children lol. Probably because children are pretty rare in this game.
    Which is just silly, since Feol Viera are most likely as tall as pure-blood Viera (their father race are likely as tall, if not, taller than the Hume in FFXII:RW). The only short thing about them is their ears.
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