Have you seen the raid clear rates between NA/EU and JP? http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/53012555.html
The mentality between our and your players really is drastically different.
Have you seen the raid clear rates between NA/EU and JP? http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/53012555.html
The mentality between our and your players really is drastically different.
You are right, being a nice person is not mandatory. You can be a jerk if you want. To some degree at least.
On the other hand, you are wrong if you expect jerks to be treated fairly and nicely by others. This is not how human beings interact in a society. Heck, even most animal societies don't work like that.
Disregarding basic social interactions just because the system allows you to be a jerk, or at least doesn't prevent you from being one, show how much you lack what a lot of people would consider core values in a social environment such as self-restraint, respect, empathy, kindness, etc.
But you are still technically right. The system doesn't force you to be a nice person and have all the traits I just mentionned.
The thing is, being technically right often means that you are wrong in practice, like here, as you don't take other aspects of the context in consideration such as the fact that you are playing with other human beings in a social environment.
"The game let me be a jerk to others!" is not a good argument. It should be time for you to understand that after so many pages and so many people trying to explain it to you.
If you display a bad behavior at a social level in a social environment, you should expect to receive the the social consequences you deserve. Regardless of how much leeway the system let you have in theory.
Just a warning to you all, I tried to do Hydatos, but then one of the members of the discord started copying and pasting the comments I made to the whole zone. No one would invite me to a NM, and now I can't finish my weapon. The discord is toxic, they actively seek out opponents of the discord, and they should be banned imo.
No one is targeting you, people just don't invite others to the NMs. This has happened to me many times and I just make my own parties or solo.Just a warning to you all, I tried to do Hydatos, but then one of the members of the discord started copying and pasting the comments I made to the whole zone. No one would invite me to a NM, and now I can't finish my weapon. The discord is toxic, they actively seek out opponents of the discord, and they should be banned imo.
FATE participation is about aggro generation so as a WHM you should be able to get gold by spamming the heck out of your abilities. Use every single heal you have on the MT and keep all the regens rolling.
If you want to troll, at least put more effort and make a more believable story lol. (Before you reply just know you have so many holes in your story).Just a warning to you all, I tried to do Hydatos, but then one of the members of the discord started copying and pasting the comments I made to the whole zone. No one would invite me to a NM, and now I can't finish my weapon. The discord is toxic, they actively seek out opponents of the discord, and they should be banned imo.
I’m sure you’re completely innocent in this entire transaction, yes? Didn’t make any snide remarks to them beforehand that would have prompted this behavior? Sounds to me like you aren’t telling the whole story here.Just a warning to you all, I tried to do Hydatos, but then one of the members of the discord started copying and pasting the comments I made to the whole zone. No one would invite me to a NM, and now I can't finish my weapon. The discord is toxic, they actively seek out opponents of the discord, and they should be banned imo.
Though, pray tell, why should anyone help a person who insists on calling any associated with the Discord “toxic”? Or who reported someone for not giving them a ride on a mount to an NM? You can’t expect people to help you after you insult them or threaten to have them reported for petty nonsense.
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How does that have anything to do with raiders? Given the circumtances being mentioned here that NA/EU raiders aka players who get into Hydatos for the sole purpose of doing BA, the majority of them would have been premade.. they have no reasons to invite someone lower than level 60 to their party to begin with, heck that only applies if the party isn't full to begin with.
Thankfully I have the only 2 seaters mount that can be obtained fully from in game play, cause aside from that mount, the others are p2w cash shopor obtained from promotional reward.
While I do not condole the name shaming behaviour, truth be told that the comment you made about reporting players simply because they won't give you a ride makes me cautious that in case we interract one way or another, I will get reported for any reasons.Just a warning to you all, I tried to do Hydatos, but then one of the members of the discord started copying and pasting the comments I made to the whole zone. No one would invite me to a NM, and now I can't finish my weapon. The discord is toxic, they actively seek out opponents of the discord, and they should be banned imo.
Man.. let me tell you my latest BA run.. I was healing as scholar within a support group, so i joined midway from AV onwards. We didn't have any problems with AV, but during Ozma, one of the tank on right side platform suddenly died so we as a support needs to replace the tank and moved in as a group.. I typed in party chat to tell them that we need to move platform and yet 3 or 4 dps still stayed on the center platform.I'm sure fully organized discord groups would be more efficient, but the BA dungeon is not that difficult.
It was, I do believe, meant for a ichi-go ichi-e (once in a life time meeting) party to tackle with all the inconvenience it entails and people were to use the logos to overcome that.
So to put it short, half of the party are in the main platform, while the other half are in the side platform which soon followed up by triangle form mechanic and their bleed.. Since I was their healer, i needed to go back and forth on the ring that connects the platform so i can dispel their bleed DoT.
Meanwhile on the right side platform, I saw a dps with less than 20% hp, it took me like 10 secs to target this player since the said player is not in my party, and for that whole duration of 10 secs, the player didn't even use potions or having heals coming from their party whatsoever. So surely you can see this as something chaotic.
But would this be boggling your mind if I tell you that this is marked as a reclear run, which should be described as only those with ozma clears are only allowed to join.. Now you can imagine having us to do PUGs for this content..
Heck, during one of the Reclear run I had, the raid leader decided not to do callouts and dozen of players suddenly died left and right during owain and raiden.
I also know for a fact that there are players (mostly dps) within the premade that barely do any damage as in they are like half afk or something, they usually answer very long in ready check, barely responding at all, and they also prompt to die by mechanics. Despite that, people still regularly bring them onto the premade.. for this reason, i still stress myself why we are being branded as ellitists where we still allow these kind of players to join the premade..
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You are the ones who don't have the whole story.I’m sure you’re completely innocent in this entire transaction, yes? Didn’t make any snide remarks to them beforehand that would have prompted this behavior? Sounds to me like you aren’t telling the whole story here.
Though, pray tell, why should anyone help a person who insists on calling any associated with the Discord “toxic”? Or who reported someone for not giving them a ride on a mount to an NM? You can’t expect people to help you after you insult them or threaten to have them reported for petty nonsense.
Then tell it. All of it. Not just “People are mean because they said mean things and they should be banned”. That’s not a story.
Provide some screenshots. Provide evidence. Feel free to post them here (with names redacted, of course) or send them to me on Discord.
You can’t expect sympathy from people when you come into a thread crying about how “toxic” players in BA Discords are with no evidence — and in a thread where you said a few pages back you reported someone for not giving you a ride to an NM, no less.
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