Would you have paid monthly for FFXIV if it was released the way it is today?

[Thanos]

that high? id score more like 10% now the way it looks the controls are all messed up nvm the spells in con/thm totaly mixed up why is anyone even still playing? i remmber the fired the last dev team for less .
i loved the game when it came out i played and enjoyed myself playing whit others it is after all my first game i played online
now i cant get people together anymore the ingame comunity is gone i cant compleate the bowls of embers quest since i cant get the required 8 nor can i do the new feast of fools quest for the same reson
so to answer youre ? "Would you have paid monthly for FFXIV if it was released the way it is today?
Just wondering. " if i startd now instead of a year ago i wuld have left allready and canzeld my subscrption be it monthly or yearly

If you had started the game now you wouldnt be concerned about getting 8 ppl to do moogle or ifrit... there is tons to do for a new player.

so... "now i cant get people together anymore the ingame comunity is gone i cant compleate the bowls of embers quest since i cant get the required 8 nor can i do the new feast of fools quest for the same reson
so to answer youre ? "Would you have paid monthly for FFXIV if it was released the way it is today?
Just wondering. " if i startd now instead of a year ago i wuld have left allready and canzeld my subscrption be it monthly or yearly"

Makes no sense to me that you would quit if you had started now.

[Deminia]

If I had zero experience playing the game and it had launched in its current state, then I might have been interested in reading about what other players felt after playing it, but would not have immediately started a subscription.

The fact that it is a Final Fantasy title does catch my attention. But there isn't enough content for me as a current player and nor would there be for me as a brand new player.

[Thanos]

If I had zero experience playing the game and it had launched in its current state, then I might have been interested in reading about what other players felt after playing it, but would not have immediately started a subscription.

The fact that it is a Final Fantasy title does catch my attention. But there isn't enough content for me as a current player and nor would there be for me as a brand new player.

Theres nothing to do as a new player? please explain

[Mireille]

Oh, I'll be paying. I'm having fun, I have friends..

But right now I'm very on the fence about where the game is going. I'd have been more enthusiastic about paying for the game under how Hiromichi Tanaka seemed to intend for it to eventually be, even with all its flaws - I had so much more hope and saw much more potential..

A bit off topic, but I have to ask the question. Where do you think Tanaka was taking it? and what do you think his goals were? at least aside from the obvious goal of making a profitable game.

[Neasa]

For a few months. Then I'd quit when I ran out of things to do. >.>

[Altanas]

Truth be told I feel a bit conned by the new team, everything the new team has brought content wise (dungeons, primals) (and the jobs to come) (and free companies) were all mentioned by Tanaka prior to launch in one way or another.

From a newbie perspective, I would be glad to have the low level dungeon, totorak etc and tons of sidequests to get started with. I'm liking the distinctions now made between classes. At launch I used the same abilities on every class...

Dungeons and Primals are not enough though.

Dungeons are shallow and linear. I suppose you could say they serve their purpose for xp parties though.

Primals are ok, but not enough on its own, especially given gap between updates.

This game needs more Structured, Layered, Branching, Content like Limbus, Assault, Nyzul, Salvage, Sea, Sky, ZNMs, Dynamis, etc. I think even Besieged on the cities is pretty much needed now as people are getting dozey from being in Uldah all the time, its similar to the Whitegate syndrome.

The Guildleves in this game at launch should just be erased from this game in their totality and replaced with a proper Assault-leve type system (which provides content for low to high level) using unique instances and unique objectives. Company Guildleves could remain for solo grinding.

The biggest disappointments in this game for me at launch were
a) all classes played the same
b) guildleves were plain boring

I feel classes have been made unique now, but guildleves are still there. That would still turn me off the game.

[Xedonius]

I feel classes have been made unique now, but guildleves are still there. That would still turn me off the game.

Um so don't do Guildleves??? You could always grind mobs and party.

Back when the subscription was going to kick in the last time and at the last minute SE opted to not institute it, I was not going to subscribe. Then SE said F2P so I thought "why not"... especially since I had dropped ~$80 for CE. I'm glad I stayed with the game, and if I bought XIV today I would be satisfied and subscribe.

[Rowyne]

that doesnt even make sense, how does having basic attacks like we had before make it a spam fest? you can only do them periodically? not to mention i dont remember too many people complaining about spam in 1.19, in fact i remember most melee saying combat was pretty fun. Sitting and waiting on tp is boring, even if its only 15 seconds of boredom, in a 40-60 second fight, thats 25% of the time.

And while there are options for tp like invigorate, invigorate will soon be only useable on 1 or maybe 2 classes. The wait to do anything style of play is not the best idea they had, it wasnt in ffxi, and it still isnt here.

Aside from that i think combat is still entertaining although different, but you are completely BSing yourself if you think it would be impossible to have actual skills you use early in the fight without being spammy. go look at 95% of combat in anywhere else.

^ Quoted for truth.

[MicahZerrshia]

This game needs more Structured, Layered, Branching, Content like Limbus, Assault, Nyzul, Salvage, Sea, Sky, ZNMs, Dynamis, etc. I think even Besieged on the cities is pretty much needed now as people are getting dozey from being in Uldah all the time, its similar to the Whitegate syndrome.

Perfect example of Veruca Salt syndrome right here lol

FFXI had 4 expansions and a few mini expansions so of course it had these things, this game is brand new, no expansion yet and all that other stuff. Plus the devs are more focused on fixing the structure before the focus on a whole tons of content. Just be patient. We had nothing really to do in xi at first either and look how good that got before tanaka destroyed it. Good things come to those who wait. Patients.

[Zanfire]

Truth be told I feel a bit conned by the new team, everything the new team has brought content wise (dungeons, primals) (and the jobs to come) (and free companies) were all mentioned by Tanaka prior to launch in one way or another.

From a newbie perspective, I would be glad to have the low level dungeon, totorak etc and tons of sidequests to get started with. I'm liking the distinctions now made between classes. At launch I used the same abilities on every class...

Dungeons and Primals are not enough though.

Dungeons are shallow and linear. I suppose you could say they serve their purpose for xp parties though.

Primals are ok, but not enough on its own, especially given gap between updates.

This game needs more Structured, Layered, Branching, Content like Limbus, Assault, Nyzul, Salvage, Sea, Sky, ZNMs, Dynamis, etc. I think even Besieged on the cities is pretty much needed now as people are getting dozey from being in Uldah all the time, its similar to the Whitegate syndrome.

The Guildleves in this game at launch should just be erased from this game in their totality and replaced with a proper Assault-leve type system (which provides content for low to high level) using unique instances and unique objectives. Company Guildleves could remain for solo grinding.

The biggest disappointments in this game for me at launch were
a) all classes played the same
b) guildleves were plain boring

I feel classes have been made unique now, but guildleves are still there. That would still turn me off the game.

have to agree, maybe its the reason people feel we have not much to do. We get short quick events that either get phased out too soon or just dont last. In FFXI it felt like almost everything had a viable piece in it and everything took some time, without feeling overly cheap (instant undodgeable death anyone?) Even things like Besiged were great, even though the rewards were almost non-existent, its was just a unique and fun event. I can already bet you that all the primals will play out the same, kill some NMs for a key item and fight in a small circle arena...

Leves bore me and i only do them because lower end PTs barely exist on Mysidia lately...and they pay gil. They took them out of focus for a reason, they are junk content that other games just put in for the sake of it.