Petition to ban Moogle exploiters.

[Krausus]

How is this...an exploiit? Isnt this how all fights usually go? Or something happens to the moogles when ppl do this?

I dont get it...so the party wipes except for one person...that one person causes a chain reaction of raises to bring the whole party back up? thats it?

What happens is as the party is wiping someone raises someone dead that person waits and rezes before the instance boots everyone. if you dont move you will not draw aggro. Everyone raises and buffs and continues the fight where they left off.

Is this an exploit? I guess in the most basic of definitions it could be but then again using something to gain advantage is the most basic of definitions of exploit. In gameing the definition of exploit is "Using something to gain unfair advantage over others".

The so called exploit is useable by anyone so really I guess it comes down to morals an whether you care if anyone cares that you used said tactic.

Issues with said exploit is they make the fight longer and you run into the risk of running out of time, it actually happens quite often. And of course even with the reset you still have to defeat the moogle

[Pyretta_Blaze]

It is a cheap way to win, but I wouldn't go so far as to say exploit.

[Agate]

OP here. Yeah, the post was 100% sarcasm. I've beaten Moogle myself using that method. Seriously, I wonder about you guys. XD

[DevilsAdvocate]

You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.

[Krausus]

OP here. Yeah, the post was 100% sarcasm. I've beaten Moogle myself using that method. Seriously, I wonder about you guys. XD

likely story.....that or you realized after the rage post no one cared.

[Cichy]

You could fix it by having all the dead mobs reraise if they all lose claim. You could just end the instance if they reset back into place.. There's a lot of things that can be done. Anyways I agree. Ban the exploiters or at the very least strip them of their drops and achievements for the fight. We beat it legit and they should have to as well. Even if they don't fix this problem then when the next content comes out and doesn't have such an easy exploit their badness will shine bright when they can't beat the content and we stroll right on by them singing songs of how bad they truly are.

I am truly puzzled by your thinking process

[SniperRifle]

DONT FIX THE EXPLOIT! JUST BAN THOSE WHO USE IT! BYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[Penguin]

To call something an exploit, I think it has to fall under the description of taking advantage of an unintended game mechanic.

I dunno about you but considering you are removed from the fight if you wipe as in all 8 people are dead even if you have a raise pending on you makes me think resetting the fight was never an intended mechanic of the moogle fight.

If you were given a 5 minute timer to raise back up and pull the moogles before it would remove you than i would agree with people that it was an intended way to do the moogle encounter but it quite clearly isn't, and the fact it was abused so much in FFXI doesn't mean its even close to relevant for this fight especially considering FFXI fights worked a different way.

[Hartigan_Redsail]

lol trolled

[Drogo]

Sorry guys, but you should not be able to try the fight twice. When you die, it should be over. That's it.

Also, when a great majority of people use an exploit, they cannot ban anyone.