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  1. #121
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    What if the person didn't know it was a "clear" group? Probably dunno never tried but for those that join portals doesn't come to say "Attention you joining a Clear group full of themselves" or "Attention join along we are going to practice together".

    You know there's a premade in there, but you don't want to ask them what they're going for? In that case it's your fault for joining something you don't know what it is and end up dying. And shouldn't be upset if people left you since you can easily end up wiping them if they helped you?
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    What if the person didn't know it was a "clear" group? Probably dunno never tried but for those that join portals doesn't come to say "Attention you joining a Clear group full of themselves" or "Attention join along we are going to practice together".

    Maybe just maybe the message that pops when you join portals (dunno never tried) is something like "You are going to enter in A/B dungeon".
    It can happen but if they are running full plate/heal they know exactly what they are doing. But the stablizier change for support it will even be more clearer
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    We started all the way from the beginning, we grind Art/Owain and Raiden for our gears for days before we start to do AV/Ozma. Every run pass raiden will get you 12 seals. Do a few runs for gears then start av/ozma. One does not run before they learn to walk. You know this is extremely similar to what is happen to south border which i will not be specific but the ideology is similiar
    Ty for explaining maybe that was the information missing to the player that joined without being aware well since there are more communication channels in game do not understand why no one had the kindness to explain the player that.
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  4. #124
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    LastFireAce's Avatar
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    Xitra Lunrise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    We never raise the snipers who die onAv (eg, every snipers so far) because we don't want to risk them missplacing a meteor on Ozma or blowing up a group with a acceleration bomb, plus there is no way we d carry someone who feel entitled to take a portal from someone who was scheduled in that run. You sure can take the portal but we are under no obligations helping you complete BA.
    comment like this what giving BA pre-made such a bad propaganda... we both own the portal. me and you. if i get in before you well sucks to be you, same go around.
    yes i did BA, yes i clear check my lodestone if you want. just because me and you did a schedule run don't mean we own the portal, just mean we have higher chance at a good team.
    Sniping don't exist when we don't own anything . even we kindly ask don't mean they have to give it.

    yes Logo expensive, yes we no obligation to raise but better to just shut up and be like "we lost person who could't get in to they portal in time" then harassed them, and inv them to the party/teach them, give them link and tray to educated them. they don't need to be professional player to go in.

    treating them like shit, calling them snipers what ended in japan people n doing support fate because how bad BA can behave.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 03-08-2019 at 05:22 AM.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    comment like this what giving BA pre-made such a bad propaganda... we both own the portal. me and you. if i get in before you well sucks to be you, same go around.
    yes i did BA, yes i clear check my lodestone if you want. just because me and you did a schedule run don't mean we own the portal, just mean we have higher chance at a good team.
    Sniping don't exist when we don't own anything . even we kindly ask don't mean they have to give it.
    But we all agree we do not have the raise the sniper, correct? I don't like sniper but they have a right to be there but we also have the right not to raise them or invite them to pt.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    You know there's a premade in there, but you don't want to ask them what they're going for? In that case it's your fault for joining something you don't know what it is and end up dying. And shouldn't be upset if people left you since you can easily end up wiping them if they helped you?
    If sometime was to join would ask 1st via game communication channel when join such dungeon/raid would go prepared and would learn and practice like someone else who does for the 1st/2nd time and no wouldn't make it with the purpose to wipe them like you wrote before.

    Highly doubt the game inform any player that tries to join BA portal if is a pre made or random group.
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    Last edited by AnnaRosa; 03-08-2019 at 05:38 AM.

  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    A: No no I know about sacrifice. It wasn’t that they didn’t raise me, it’s that they told people not to raise me. As in, I stayed to watch the rest of the fight and after they killed AV I used return to leave and shouted for a raise and the people started shouting not to raise me cause I took their spot and it’s my own fault I’m dead.
    If your friend was expecting a Sacrifice in the middle of AV, they were mistaken. I've never seen healers Sacrifice L in the middle of a fight (and only know if one occasion where it was done for NA, which was during Ozma to raise a tank). Healers need to be up to handle his healing requirements. They can't just Sacrifice themselves and hope their Remembered procs mid-fight. It's a huge risk, and I certainly wouldn't take it.

    Also, if your friend had released from the instance, they would have already deleveled. I'm fairly certain that you cannot use the Return function while dead, so her "Return" would have to be the release dialogue box you see when you die in any content.

    The only way I know to avoid the delevel is to wait for the BA timer to expire before your Raise timer so that your corpse is kicked out of the dungeon and spawned at the base. This only works if your group 1. Waits until ~8 minutes on the BA timer to pull AV, and 2. Actually wipes to AV, as you are granted an extension when you clear each boss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    what the dude is claiming is they harassed her on entry, gloried in her death, and lobbied to get no one to raise her after getting kicked from instance. If this is true, thats the big offense.
    The bolded statement is impossible to be true. If OP's friend died during AV, and subsequently released because no one was Sacrificing for her, she would automatically delevel. If she waited out her Raise timer and was automatically booted, she would delevel. The only way to not delevel is to have the BA timer expire before your Raise timer, so that you are spawned at the camp dead where people can raise you. But, since it seems that the group cleared AV, this is also impossible. You are granted a time extension for clearing each boss, so her BA instance timer would now long exceed her Raise timer.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 03-08-2019 at 05:43 AM.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    But we all agree we do not have the raise the sniper, correct? I don't like sniper but they have a right to be there but we also have the right not to raise them or invite them to pt.


    read my comment agent i finish editing it.

    yes you should inv them to party, educated them, give them discord link.... after all what done is done. they inside no the other person.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    comment like this what giving BA pre-made such a bad propaganda... we both own the portal. me and you. if i get in before you well sucks to be you, same go around.
    yes i did BA, yes i clear check my lodestone if you want. just because me and you did a schedule run don't mean we own the portal, just mean we have higher chance at a good team.
    Sniping don't exist when we don't own anything . even we kindly ask don't mean they have to give it.

    yes Logo expensive, yes we no obligation to raise but better to just shut up and be like "we lost person who could't get in to they portal in time" then harassed them, and inv them to the party/teach them, give them link and tray to educated them. they don't need to be professional player to go in.

    treating them like shit, calling them snipers what ended in japan people n doing support fate because how bad BA can behave.
    The problem is if they want to learn, go through the proper channel.
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    The problem is if they want to learn, go through the proper channel.

    or they can go in and pug it, if they new they won't know thos channel just want to go inside a portal is they choice.

    i mean you can harassed them and call them out.... won't do much besides ruin our already ruin BA attitude.

    help and educated. don't be dicks. if they in, they in.

    when i lead my group and someone new go in, i normally say "you poor soul welcome to BA" tray to teach them how it go, normally they answer with "sorry my bad" we tray to get them going.

    if they in, they in. them leaving no gonna bring the other guy,whoever did no make it can join support.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 03-08-2019 at 05:32 AM.

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