Ended sb, someone forgot his key? (spoil)

[HyoMinPark]

Okay thats simpl
Pre hw -- start get betrayed run to isgard for safety still allowed in the towns we are being hunted which is really not logical to start with

Hw start -- enter town join nobelhood basicly go to 1 zone half ways through sent back to uldah and mor dhon...

Hw center -- save the bull, kill whales 3 dungeons then save the kitten ... mean while niddhog sits some were being lazy ...

Near end of hw -- magically three different story's start before ending hws plot the story of domanio,warriors of darkness and al miego pre log while using old ar zones without any rhyme for basic messenger



Next sb

Pre sb -- killed griffin forced to enter a battle field to free ala miego

Start sb -- the battle begins clean and simple flow with pre until we are nearly killed

Start sb part 2 saving downtime to limsa buy a ship and set sail

In between get off track as boars tend to kill ghost

Center sb ---learn about kugan and culture get tricked by a fish into breaking the law saved by turtle who runs a business

because he wants to sell to a company pretty clean and logical flow

Center part 2 leave and gather info from logical pirates taking out imperial to gain freedom


Near end finish the empires threat in the land and enters war 2.0 as we fall into darkness for pre shadow bringers.


Yes left our some but i rushed this cuz half awake but logical and flow of the storys facts has been proven

This is still an opinion.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

This is still an opinion.

Thats a fact of flow and story arcs logic strucker with the time flow 1 simple has the better logic with the time flow. One big example of this

Titan is summoned story has you get whine,cheese and a egg for a party that logical if the story was real time everyone would already be dead...

Im not stating the story's are bad just the time flow and logic IS ALOT BETTER IN SB

[HyoMinPark]

Thats a fact of flow and story arcs logic strucker with the time flow 1 simple has the better logic with the time flow. One big example of this

Titan is summoned story has you get whine,cheese and a egg for a party that logical if the story was real time everyone would already be dead...

Im not stating the story's are bad just the time flow and logic IS ALOT BETTER IN SB

Using the words "logical" in your assessment of SB's story doesn't make it a factually logical statement.

Also, we are discussing HW versus SB. Why are you bringing up ARR? It's irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

[SannaR]

"Bored weeb seeks cool fight with strong person."

Even if I had no other issues with the Stormblood story I'd still think this sucks as a motivation for a villain.

Sure it sucks but it's part of why he allows Yutsuyu and Fordola to do what they do. He wants someone who has the strength to rise up and be interesting enough to fight. He was raised to be a weapon. He sees fighting as a sport of a sort it's why he calls it a hunt and whatnot.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Using the words "logical" in your assessment of SB's story doesn't make it a factually logical statement.

Also, we are discussing HW versus SB. Why are you bringing up ARR? It's irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

It was a example as yes time line logic does make a big differnce..


One key differnce is if i told you to go to lets say china as a example in order to free some guy in order to return to save 500 people who are trapped in a volcanic cave ... when you had the tools on you

Instend of telling you take this tools the tunnel that will take to the people you need to locate is a long journey so be prepared and then put you on a horse and send you to your goal while you meet others with more tools you need to complete your mission.


The fact is the second one is better story due to time line logic

[Mimilu]

One big example of this

Titan is summoned story has you get whine,cheese and a egg for a party that logical if the story was real time everyone would already be dead...

Didn't your break down of SB's story include a random break from the story to fight ghosts and having a turtle save us from a tricky fish? >w>

[Gemina]

Okay thats simpl
Pre hw -- start get betrayed run to isgard for safety still allowed in the towns we are being hunted which is really not logical to start with

Hw start -- enter town join nobelhood basicly go to 1 zone half ways through sent back to uldah and mor dhon...

Hw center -- save the bull, kill whales 3 dungeons then save the kitten ... mean while niddhog sits some were being lazy ...

Near end of hw -- magically three different story's start before ending hws plot the story of domanio,warriors of darkness and al miego pre log while using old ar zones without any rhyme for basic messenger



Next sb

Pre sb -- killed griffin forced to enter a battle field to free ala miego

Start sb -- the battle begins clean and simple flow with pre until we are nearly killed

Start sb part 2 saving downtime to limsa buy a ship and set sail

In between get off track as boars tend to kill ghost

Center sb ---learn about kugan and culture get tricked by a fish into breaking the law saved by turtle who runs a business

because he wants to sell to a company pretty clean and logical flow

Center part 2 leave and gather info from logical pirates taking out imperial to gain freedom


Near end finish the empires threat in the land and enters war 2.0 as we fall into darkness for pre shadow bringers.


Yes left our some but i rushed this cuz half awake but logical and flow of the storys facts has been proven

You are merely mentioning events as they have unfolded. This does not prove SB is better than HW. That is like me saying, "It's a fact that sausage is better than pepperoni on pizza" and then when someone asks me to prove it, I then say, "Pizza Hut was founded in 1958." Sure, it's a factual statement, but it does not prove sausage is better than pepperoni on pizza.

In order to prove that SB is better than HW you have to state actual facts that cannot be disputed, but because this is an opinion it is simply not possible for you to do so. Opinions are neither right or wrong because... well because they're opinions.

[Bright-Flower]

This is opinion. For me HW flows much better and SB doesn't flow well because the region split makes both stories feel too rushed. I also on the whole found the antagonists in HW far more engaging with the exception of Fordola who I liked.

If your evidence is just to point out things you don't like in HW's story, I can point out a lot of things i hate about SB's story, that doesn't make SB's story objectively worse than HW.

[HyoMinPark]

It was a example as yes time line logic does make a big differnce..

Perhaps you misunderstood. I will say it again:

You saying “This is logical” does not inherently make it so. I could find it illogical. Which one of us is “right”? Neither, because these are opinions, and opinions can be neither right nor wrong.

I don’t find it logical that Lakshmi was shoehorned in at level 68, nor that the storywriters tried to shove both countries’ liberations into a single expansion. It would have been much better, in my opinion, to have done one during the main expansion (Ala Mhigo), and the second during the 4.x story while mixing in cliffhangers for 5.0 (Doma). Alas, that was not how it was done, and it’s execution, to me, made both feel rushed, and as if Ala Mhigo itself was an afterthought. Ironic, since the entirety of 3.x’s later story revolves around us going to Ala Mhigo...

One key differnce is if i told you to go to lets say china as a example in order to free some guy in order to return to save 500 people who are trapped in a volcanic cave ... when you had the tools on you

Instend of telling you take this tools the tunnel that will take to the people you need to locate is a long journey so be prepared and then put you on a horse and send you to your goal while you meet others with more tools you need to complete your mission.


The fact is the second one is better story due to time line logic

That is your opinion. That is not a fact.

I find both of your hypothetics poor, especially since you’re just inventing them as a means of trying to prove your own argument and support your opinions as facts. They are not. You have not provided any irrefutable evidence that SB is factually better than HW. All you have done is poorly summarize and then say “See! It flows well and logically! It’s better!”

Please learn what the difference is between opinions and facts next time you debate.

[Gula]

Not rlly on written stand point its a fact

Still looks like an opinion to me, just my opinion.