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[Stanelis]

As for not being able to find PUGs now, as I said in my original post thats mostly due to the fact that pool of people who want to do the content but don't want to join a Discord for their personal reasons is too small to sustain a large PUG effort, in addition to the general attitude to BA being that it requires a premade to make any progres

People can very well both do runs as PUGS and with premades, especially considering it may be difficult to find a free instance with BA available for a 48 men group.

Yet even with taking this into account, it doesn't happen.

[Brill_]

People can very well both do runs as PUGS and with premades, especially considering it may be difficult to find a free instance with BA available for a 48 men group.

Yet even with taking this into account, it doesn't happen.

IMO, it doesn't happen because the dicords have laid claim to all of BA. They shame people that won't do things their way and feel they are entitled to all the portals. So people don't bother trying to pug. This all goes back to SE terrible implementation. Given the way eureka has gone, SE will double down on this portal stuff and make it even worse(like pagos was).

[Xellos2099]

IMO, it doesn't happen because the dicords have laid claim to all of BA. They shame people that won't do things their way and feel they are entitled to all the portals. So people don't bother trying to pug. This all goes back to SE terrible implementation. Given the way eureka has gone, SE will double down on this portal stuff and make it even worse(like pagos was).

Incorrectly, while farming crystal I have seen plenty of instance with no BA group inside. Yet I barely see anyone go in, or when they go in and they die to trash. Yet when BA group is in instance, everyone else want to go in and ask if there are empty spot.

[HyoMinPark]

IMO, it doesn't happen because the dicords have laid claim to all of BA. They shame people that won't do things their way and feel they are entitled to all the portals. So people don't bother trying to pug. This all goes back to SE terrible implementation. Given the way eureka has gone, SE will double down on this portal stuff and make it even worse(like pagos was).

This is incorrect for Aether DC. I've been in several Hydatos instances with no premade groups, and you either get a dozen or so people that shout about going into BA after Ovni dies, or none at all. And there is virtually no preplanning within the instance before Ovni spawns, just "lfg BA" after he dies. Occasionally I'll see someone ask, "Is there a BA group in here?" after he goes down. If there's no response, they don't attempt to organize a group themselves. If there is, they either say "good luck in there!" or begin to rant about how "portals don't belong to premade groups". If it's for AV/Ozma, they may ask if the Support party has filled or not. But the amount of within-instance planning is negligible.

The drama doesn't happen until the instance realizes that there's a premade group inside, and then people suddenly care about the content (and it's usually the same vocal few that want to cause a ruckus).

[Stanelis]

IMO, it doesn't happen because the dicords have laid claim to all of BA. They shame people that won't do things their way and feel they are entitled to all the portals. So people don't bother trying to pug. This all goes back to SE terrible implementation. Given the way eureka has gone, SE will double down on this portal stuff and make it even worse(like pagos was).

That's simply false because, as already stated, there are a decent amounts of instances where no BA premades can be found when OVNI spawns.

[ltsquigs]

Those JP PUG Macros look amazing.

Unfortunately theres no infrastructure for creating those kind of Macros in the NA Scene. Almost all strategies are gotten from video guides and are written/created by players in static groups with voice chat (usually on the first day as well), which makes their strategies usually fairly hard to use/understand by PUGs.

In the EX PF Primal Scene at least people use the video guide strats for the first day, and then quickly abandon them for strats that are more consistent/easy to explain (Tuskyomi EX and its Meteor placement is one that comes to mind where this happened). Unfortunately theres no effort to codify or share those kind of strats in macros like on the JP Side -_-

[Xellos2099]

Those JP PUG Macros look amazing.

Unfortunately theres no infrastructure for creating those kind of Macros in the NA Scene. Almost all strategies are gotten from video guides and are written/created by players in static groups with voice chat (usually on the first day as well), which makes their strategies usually fairly hard to use/understand by PUGs.

In the EX PF Primal Scene at least people use the video guide strats for the first day, and then quickly abandon them for strats that are more consistent/easy to explain (Tuskyomi EX and its Meteor placement is one that comes to mind where this happened). Unfortunately theres no effort to codify or share those kind of strats in macros like on the JP Side -_-

Or the infamous spyro strat for o10s