Give the possible Eureka 5.X its own weapon, and separate Relic from it

[Nariel]

You're the one who is doing the crying it appears. It's relic content and the progression designed for 4.0 by the development team. Sorry it's not something YOU like but seriously they aren't going to change it NOW to suit your fancy.

Why the relics isn't required to progress Eureka then ? Like at all. You don't need it to finish an area, don't need it to unlock the next area, Krile don't mention the relic weapon once, Eureka itself (the primal) don't provide anything, be it a line of dialogue or a component for the weapon. The only links between the relic weapon and Eureka are component without a speck of lore behind them and "Eureka is a primal that give weapon so the weapon he never interact with is tied to him".

But hey if you continue to stretch it enough you might find out Eureka is actualy related to Hildibrand.

[LaylaTsarra]

But hey if you continue to stretch it enough you might find out Eureka is actualy related to Hildibrand.

Talk to the development team. They are the ones who designed the content around relic and I think they know more about their game than you do.. It's fine you don't have to like it. You can all stretch the facts that this isn't really a relic and the content isn't relic related and that relic was thrown in as an after thought to make people play the content.

[Nariel]

Talk to the development team. They are the ones who designed the content. It's fine you don't have to like it. You can all stretch the facts that this isn't really a relic and the content isn't relic related.

Isn't it the whole point of a forum and the reason some people says they want the relic out or have a second option that didn't imply Eureka ? You know, using the forum to add their opinion in the hope staff might take account of it...

Its is a relic, a very badly implemented one, she is sure tied to eureka its an arguably bad decision and a badly done too. But if Eureka was created around the said relic, it sure not show it well since you have no proof of it either.

[LaylaTsarra]

IIts is a relic, a very badly implemented one, she is sure tied to eureka its an arguably bad decision and a badly done too.

You're entitled to your opinion I certainly don't agree. I think it was awesome. And I'm expressing my opinion too which is my right.

[Nariel]

You're entitled to your opinion I certainly don't agree. I think it was awesome. And I'm expressing my opinion too which is my right.

And you dodge the real point with the "opinion are like ass crack every one get one" and don't bring any argument for your claim about how Eureka was created around the relic. But it have nothing to do with the next Relic OP sugest being not tied to the next Eurekrap 5.0 to begin with so whatever. Damn, he even suggest you have your own toy totaly related to it...

[Jandor]

Why the relics isn't required to progress Eureka then ? Like at all.

Story and lore are quite important to FFXIV, so where possible the devs like to provide an easy option for players who are only interested in the story.

And you dodge the real point with the "opinion are like ass crack every one get one" and don't bring any argument for your claim about how Eureka was created around the relic. But it have nothing to do with the next Relic OP sugest being not tied to the next Eurekrap 5.0 to begin with so whatever. Damn, he even suggest you have your own toy totaly related to it...

The claim that the relic was thrown in Eureka at the last minute is the one that needs proof. You spend nearly all your time in there grinding crystals, light and specific mobs in order to build it.
Everything apart from the 10 minutes or so you spend on Kriles thing in each area is related to building and powering up your relic weapon(s.)

It feels more like she was thrown in at the last minute because they needed some excuse plot to justify the whole area hopping relic grind they'd created.

[Nariel]

Story and lore are quite important to FFXIV, so where possible the devs like to provide an easy option for players who are only interested in the story.

Relics had their own story while not being related that much to any content of 2.0 and 3.0. Eureka weapon have no lore at all or you have some to provide ? Because last time I checked it a weapon upgraded with junk we found around here, nothing comparable to a zodiac brave weapon or a living weapon having her own soul.

[LaylaTsarra]

But it have anything to do with the next Relic OP sugest being not tied to the next Eurekrap 5.0 to begin with so whatever.

I've already expressed that I would hope the next relic progression would be new. Perhaps you should read what people have to say. One thing I certainly don't want is a repeat of the tired old formula from 3.0. You can call it "KRAP" all you like. I'm sure the devs reading your comments will take note of your verbal interpretation of their work and effort.

[Reynhart]

Why the relics isn't required to progress Eureka then ?

For the same reason why normal raid was created. Because people would whine endlessly that they have to put dedication into some content if they want the lore behind it. And I'm pleased to see that the storyline and the final weapon upgrade only come with doing the Baldesion Arsenal, instead of simply reaching level 60 and farming FATEs.

and don't bring any argument for your claim about how Eureka was created around the relic.

Then I guess this is a better place to quote this than in my previous post :

Y: Up until now, in the theme park called FFXIV land, we went to various attractions through the Zodiac and Anima Weapon quest lines, but I think a lot of people are getting tired of that system. We are also reaching our limits on how to create routes to go to those attractions, so we thought that we might as well make the weapon quest one of the attractions, as well, rather than it being a tool to see attractions. It will still be a “time to win” based attraction like Zodiac and Anima Weapons. That’s why we thought that the name “Forbidden land” fits it quite well… (laugh). In FFIII, Eureka is a land that is sealed with powerful magic and weapons, so in order to keep that charm point, we want players to put in hours and effort into making it. With that in our minds, we thought we should bring it up by a level, so we made Eureka.

Eureka weapon have no lore at all or you have some to provide ?

It has, but you need to do Eureka for that, and not just Anemos.

Because last time I checked it a weapon upgraded with junk we found around here, nothing comparable to a zodiac brave weapon or a living weapon having her own soul.

Sure, because all the items we bought from Rowena's slaves with our tomestones are anything but junk...And what good did that soul do when your benched your weapon to your servant ? Of the really close tie between your Zodiac weapon and the actual Zodiac Braves, that are past Ivalice heroes, and nothing like what was said in the weapon storyline.

[LaylaTsarra]

Then I guess this is a better place to quote this than in my previous post :

Sorry he only reads what suits him it appears and thank you for re-quoting that.