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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    You're ignoring the fact that the relic has had its own story in 2.X/3.X, with 3.X's relic story being the most interesting thus far.
    Which was completely unrelated to the content you actually did for that relic, so irrelevant on that topic. In fact, the Eureka weapons are more related to Eureka lorewise, especially the very final stages, that any previous relic to the content they asked you to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    However, the Relic and Eureka are 2 DIFFERENT pieces of content. The previous 2 relics existed independently of Eureka/Diadem as such, it has been viewed as content for players outside those that liked Eureka/Diadem.
    The Zodiac and the Anima were separated, the Eureka weapon isn't (In case the name wasn't clear). And, like I said above, there is a lore connection between the two. Also, the Zodiac was the only weapon available in 2.x if you wanted to keep the (almost) max ilvl at each patch without raiding. This was not the case in HW and SB. And, finally, the Anima had a step tied to Diadem and would have probably had others if Diadem didn't fail spectacularly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    I mean, your signature with the quote from Yoshida speaks volumes. About how Eureka won't be a place where everyone would want to go. This suggests that people who go to Eureka should be people that are going to Eureka for the content of Eureka.
    People don't go into content just for the content, you have to give them a reward for that. It's the same for everything. Remove gear from Savage, and it will be on life support after the first clears.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    While the Relic completely contradicts that, because it then makes Eureka a place where everyone wants to go because everyone wants to get the shiny relic for the expansion.
    Except that, no, not everyone does the relic. Right now, the number of characters having done an Anima is still a very small part of the playerbase, despite being nerfed to death. And I'm pretty sure even the Zodiac is still a rarity, despite it being actually competitive in its own time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    If your only reason for liking Eureka is because you get the Relic, then you really need to re-evaluate about whether you actually like the content or merely just like the reward.
    Considering how many people did Eureka despite hating it, just for the relic, it seems priority is a bigger issue for them. Me ? I like the relic, but I only did it because I like Eureka. I would have completely skipped if it was just another tomestone farm ad nauseum like the two previous ones.

    In fact, the sentence above is probably the biggest clue on how likely the next relic will be tied to an exploration type content. Because it made people do it, even if they didn't really liked it. So, from a strategic PoV, it was brilliant. The thing, now that exploration content has already been confirmed for 5.x, is to give feedback on how to improve the content.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-01-2019 at 07:17 PM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.