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  1. #531
    Player Leanna's Avatar
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    Leanna Crawford
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    I will once you stop spreading inconsistencies lol.
    You can easily get gold if you play a class with high damage and know how to play it, I guess logos can help too. A party of 2 or 3 people won't have any problem at all, but solo is also possible if you are not being lazy.
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  2. #532
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    You can easily get gold if you play a class with high damage and know how to play it, I guess logos can help too. A party of 2 or 3 people won't have any problem at all, but solo is also possible if you are not being lazy.
    Doesn't even need to be high damage classes. I've done this even on tanks without using tank stance or my enmity combo at all, or as a healer doing nothing but nukes, solo. This includes things like PW and Ovni in a full instance. The primary benefit to a party to me is just having a contingency for other people's stupidity such as Ovni's Ion Storm marker as an example. The best thing about parties though IMO is that it lets high level players carry players that are under leveled for the fate to gold which gets them more exp.
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  3. #533
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    You can easily get gold if you play a class with high damage and know how to play it, I guess logos can help too. A party of 2 or 3 people won't have any problem at all, but solo is also possible if you are not being lazy.
    Well if I have to play at an orange parse level to get gold even with over 500 elemental bonus, I wouldn't call that easy. We're not including logos, since that's not available except in Pyros and Hydatos fates, so we can't generalize that to fates in general.
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  4. #534
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    purgatori's Avatar
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    Purgatori Sakkara
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    From experience from most MMO's they have areas to get past to grind etc where you have to run past high level mobs and risk getting killed.Same in a lot of MMO dungeons.
    Most the community in Eureka is also willing to come and res you so you dont lose xp or will help you get to an area for quest etc.
    As for the mobs themselves.They have different agro ways.Some are sound so they agro you if running.You can get by them simply by walking instead of running.Some also only agro you if your hp drops to a certain threshold.As for the rest of them its easy enough to manouvre around their field of visions once you get used to it.
    But if you didnt learn that in anemos you are likely not to learn it in the other Eureka zones.
    Also as for agroing mobs during fates.Well this is no diferent than the rules you should have learned by now in dungeons on your way to lvl 70 so if you arent watching for mobs during fates you really have no excuse.
    I sat there calling for a rez for over ten minutes while a healer was grinding mobs a few metres away from my corpse. My next death also went without receiving a rez
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  5. #535
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    Sheriyana's Avatar
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    Namissa Minami
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    I sat there calling for a rez for over ten minutes while a healer was grinding mobs a few metres away from my corpse. My next death also went without receiving a rez
    This is the thing with Pagos, the original chain mentality turned everyone from being nice and willing to help in Anemos to self-absorbed and unwilling to lift a finger to help anyone in Pagos. That's another aspect that really made me despise Pagos. Everyone was having fun in shout chat and going out of their way just to help people in Anemos but here comes Pagos and now you had to chain mobs to accomplish anything and if you stopped hitting that mob for 5 seconds, goodbye to that chain. That made it so people couldn't care less if someone died under their feet and of course the hostile mentality gave more room to trolls to ruin the experience even further by pulling mobs to NMs on purpose etc. that happened in Anemos too but it was way worse in Pagos from what I heard.

    Also the way mobs aggro is really not the first thing on your mind when you're trying to rush to the other side of the map to get something out of that NM and people don't care about waiting since there's people already waiting when the NM pops. I mean you can just try to sneak by mobs but that NM is going to be long dead by the time you get there so what are you supposed to do.
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  7. #536
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    I sat there calling for a rez for over ten minutes while a healer was grinding mobs a few metres away from my corpse. My next death also went without receiving a rez
    SE now probably needs to "reward" people for rezzing too
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  8. #537
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    Laphael Lanelar
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    I sat there calling for a rez for over ten minutes while a healer was grinding mobs a few metres away from my corpse. My next death also went without receiving a rez
    Not everyone looks at the shout-chat. Did you /tell him directly?
    Corpses are really hard to see sometimes.

    I would recommend doing challange log in Anemos till lvl 23 and then go to Pagos and get a party immediatly (ppl in a party usually go to rezz you if you die). Try carefully to get the middle and west Aetherite and join the Train. You will be 25 in no time an can get the east aetherite, after that its easy following the train.
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  9. #538
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    Purgatori Sakkara
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    Not everyone looks at the shout-chat. Did you /tell him directly?
    Corpses are really hard to see sometimes.

    I would recommend doing challange log in Anemos till lvl 23 and then go to Pagos and get a party immediatly (ppl in a party usually go to rezz you if you die). Try carefully to get the middle and west Aetherite and join the Train. You will be 25 in no time an can get the east aetherite, after that its easy following the train.
    I did, actually, and his reply was essentially "sorry, can't!" I know it's just a single anecdote, but it definitely didn't colour my Pagos impressions favourably when taken with all the other things I didn't like about the experience. Thanks for the tips, though!
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  10. #539
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    I did, actually, and his reply was essentially "sorry, can't!" I know it's just a single anecdote, but it definitely didn't colour my Pagos impressions favourably when taken with all the other things I didn't like about the experience. Thanks for the tips, though!
    If they are far enough away to be untargetable how are you supposed to /tell them anyway right? I think they should just remove the exp loss thing in the older areas. Not that it was ever a good idea to begin with.
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  11. #540
    Player Leanna's Avatar
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    Leanna Crawford
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    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    I sat there calling for a rez for over ten minutes while a healer was grinding mobs a few metres away from my corpse. My next death also went without receiving a rez
    This happens more often than people is willing to admit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Well if I have to play at an orange parse level to get gold even with over 500 elemental bonus, I wouldn't call that easy. We're not including logos, since that's not available except in Pyros and Hydatos fates, so we can't generalize that to fates in general.
    You don't need an orange parse to play properly, just a brain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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