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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    SE cannot possibly just scan my PC and declare I have an illegal program, they are not allowed to determine if I am able to download an all-around useful program for other usage. Bit rebellious about this as I am, I question if SE can even any way detect this program being used for FFXIV specifically, me having it on while having multiple games on, they cannot know to which game/thing I use the program for, I suspect.
    I don't use any add-ons myself. I am making the following post based off what I know of add-ons from my time in WoW. I don't imagine they're much different when it comes to whether or not a source outside the player's pc can see traces of their use.

    SE can't scan your pc but they have obviously unlimited access to every shred of information that passes through their game. For example any add-ons that put something into a chat-log leave information behind that SE could find. If an add-on functions like an in-game macro in some cases that could be something else they could find. The use of add-ons that communicate with each other across different accounts would be especially easy for them to track down.

    And of course there's things that players themselves do, like talking about using them in-game or the forums, which could very well invite SE's curiosity depending on the context. Just by making this thread you have already highlighted yourself.

    SE appear to have somewhat accepted that players will use add-ons. While officially it's against the ToS, unofficially their stance is "if it doesn't break any more of the ToS we will turn a blind eye".

    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    I am querying about a program. This program does not interact specifically with FFXIV in any way. It presses buttons based on the sequence that is loaded to the program, which, if FFXIV is the active window, translate into Bard Performance notes.
    However the add-on you're talking about could be seen as botting, because you're entering a entering a sequence that the software plays for you, instead of playing it yourself. While botting with the sole intention of only playing music is obviously minor when compared with normal botting, there's no guarantee SE will view it that way. They may have a firm stance against any sort of botting regardless of how trivial the commands are.

    I personally would steer clear of using any add-on with any sort of automation because that could easily be seen as botting, especially now that you have announced your interest in its use in the official forums. You really should have asked this question elsewhere, where SE have no power and can't link your words to a player account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I don't use any add-ons myself. I am making the following post based of what I know of add-ons from my time in WoW. I don't imagine they're much different when it comes to whether or not a source outside the player's pc can see traces of their use.

    SE can't scan your pc but they have obviously unlimited access to every shred of information that passes through their game. For example any add-ons that put something into a chat-log leave information behind that SE could find. If an add-on functions like an in-game macro in some cases that could be something else they could find. The use of add-ons that communicate with each other across different accounts would be especially easy for them to track down.

    And of course there's things that players themselves do, like talking about using them in-game or the forums, which could very well invite SE's curiosity depending on the context. Just by making this thread you have already highlighted yourself.

    SE appear to have somewhat accepted that players will use add-ons. While officially it's against the ToS, unofficially their stance is "if it doesn't break any more of the ToS we will turn a blind eye".



    However the add-on you're talking about could be seen as botting, because you're entering a entering a sequence that the software plays for you, instead of playing it yourself. While botting with the sole intention of only playing music is obviously minor when compared with normal botting, there's no guarantee SE will view it that way. They may have a firm stance against any sort of botting regardless of how trivial the commands are.

    I personally would steer clear of using any add-on with any sort of automation because that could easily be seen as botting, especially now that you have announced your interest in its use in the official forums. You really should have asked this question elsewhere, where SE have no power and can't link your words to a player account.
    Thanks for the reply. I am not scared of being highlighted, I do not wish to use something that is confirmed to be illegal. I must add that the program in question requires a MIDI file to work, you can't really enter a sequence that would, for example, act as your Job rotation, nor does it automate pathing/moving of any kind to an NPC/gathering node, for example. The program is solely made for Bard performance, nothing else.
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    Last edited by Saradain; 02-24-2019 at 09:50 AM.