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  1. #11
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    Zi Zizi
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    As others have stated FC credit is already payment from members. You can always ask and people can give but a gil tax just seems wrong to me.
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  2. #12
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    If this option was in the game I would be instantly turned off by any fc that taxes its members. This sort of feature is ripe for abuse by fc leaders who will pocket the tax money instead of pumping it into the fc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded View Post
    WoW had something along these lines.

    It was not by chance that the feature was removed from WoW - it was removed because it was widely abused.
    Yeap. After the feature was introduced a huge amount of guilds spawned, whose sole purpose was to take advantage of the gold automatically deposited into the guild bank. While this didn't take money from the player's pockets, it was still exploitative because these guilds had no intention of fostering a community, or using the gold to do anything nice for the members. They were using other players as free labour to generate free money for them.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 02-20-2019 at 12:16 PM.

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    Imagine this being added while we still have the private chambers demolition issue lol.
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Tax? Naw.

    Do what WoW does. It generates a percent of the money you loot and puts it in the guild bank. You still get the full amount of copper/silver/gold looted and the game creates out of thin air a percentage of what you looted and puts it in the guild bank. This percent would have to be low though for FF, something like 5% of what you loot. Also WoW ONLY did this for money you looted from mobs. Quest rewards didn't count.

    In return, add more uses for this FC gil. Make it so the FC person can buy more FC chest tabs and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Tax? Naw.

    Do what WoW does.
    WoW doesn't do that anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    WoW doesn't do that anymore.
    WoW doesn't do a lot of awesome things it use to do.. this is why people are quitting.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Tax? Naw.

    Do what WoW does. It generates a percent of the money you loot and puts it in the guild bank. You still get the full amount of copper/silver/gold looted and the game creates out of thin air a percentage of what you looted and puts it in the guild bank. This percent would have to be low though for FF, something like 5% of what you loot. Also WoW ONLY did this for money you looted from mobs. Quest rewards didn't count.

    In return, add more uses for this FC gil. Make it so the FC person can buy more FC chest tabs and so on.
    Why shouldnt the FC spend their FC credits on more things (like more chest tabs etc.)? We already have a currency thats FC-specific for FC-specific things.
    Why create potential drama by adding gil to this FC currency?
    Gil could be taken out by anyone, they could be hoarded by the FC-leader and only fill their pockets instead of benefitting the FC. Sure, one can argue that a leader can be the sole benefitter from the credits atm aswell, but that at least requires them to go through the process of spending credits and then selling the goods. With the gil just appearing in the chest, FC-leaders would - in theory - have a free income they'd only need to collect on.

    FC-benefits can already be purchased, by using a currency thats created out of thin air whenever someone does specific tasks (like FATEs, turning in stuff for GC-seals etc.), there is no need to add gil to this. Any future FC-boni can be purchased with FC-credits just as easly.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Why shouldnt the FC spend their FC credits on more things (like more chest tabs etc.)? We already have a currency thats FC-specific for FC-specific things.
    Why create potential drama by adding gil to this FC currency?
    Gil could be taken out by anyone, they could be hoarded by the FC-leader and only fill their pockets instead of benefitting the FC. Sure, one can argue that a leader can be the sole benefitter from the credits atm aswell, but that at least requires them to go through the process of spending credits and then selling the goods. With the gil just appearing in the chest, FC-leaders would - in theory - have a free income they'd only need to collect on.

    FC-benefits can already be purchased, by using a currency thats created out of thin air whenever someone does specific tasks (like FATEs, turning in stuff for GC-seals etc.), there is no need to add gil to this. Any future FC-boni can be purchased with FC-credits just as easly.
    Why not buy more tabs with either credits or gil?

    Gil could be used for repairs as well. Give people access to repair using FC gil and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    WoW doesn't do a lot of awesome things it use to do.. this is why people are quitting.
    I can guarantee no one is quitting because that guild perk is gone. That feature was removed several years ago. Long before Activision-Blizzard royally messed up WoW on a grand scale.
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    If the tax or whatever wasn't there in the start, don't add it now. The system should either be built around something like that, or it won't be. Don't change it mid way.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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