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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Lightbulb Free Company Tax/Gil Bonus System for Auto Deposit

    I'd love to see some ability for the Free Company to either have some form of Gil bonus that get's auto deposited into the Free Company Chest or some way to set a tax that does the same thing, that would deposit Gil into the chest for the free company. This would be optional of course.

    With this, it would be great to see more things in the game to buy with Gil too, but as far as the FC goes, this would be a very nice community feature to help build and save Gil as a group.

    Thanks!
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    Agreed, FC leader pay isn't even at minimum wage levels. They need some kind of income.
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    So you want to automate the system and thus pull jobs from the humble enforcers? Think of their families!

    In all seriousness though I have mixed feelings with something like this. Having it optional as an fc setting and an individual opt-in/out/amount would be nice, but if there's tracking or anything I can already see the posts on being kicked out of an FC because the leader felt the need for mandatory taxation.
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    Hiro Masaaki
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    A very bad idea....

    WoW had something along these lines. Each time you looted coin from a mob the game deposited a percentage of that into the guild bank coffers (the amount the player got was not reduced). Whilst this seems like a great idea in fact it gave rise to guilds that plagued the game and preyed on new players so they could gain gold from them as they levelled and those players never reaped the rewards as the guild leader used the money for their own needs. It was not by chance that the feature was removed from WoW - it was removed because it was widely abused.

    Better to have a FC in which the leader can encourage community and members contribute themselves. Enhance the FC communication features instead of turning them into a way for the "invite spam" FC's to get rich quick.
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    Last edited by Bearded; 02-20-2019 at 08:34 AM.

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    Nettle Creidne
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    If this option was in the game I would be instantly turned off by any fc that taxes its members. This sort of feature is ripe for abuse by fc leaders who will pocket the tax money instead of pumping it into the fc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded View Post
    WoW had something along these lines.

    It was not by chance that the feature was removed from WoW - it was removed because it was widely abused.
    Yeap. After the feature was introduced a huge amount of guilds spawned, whose sole purpose was to take advantage of the gold automatically deposited into the guild bank. While this didn't take money from the player's pockets, it was still exploitative because these guilds had no intention of fostering a community, or using the gold to do anything nice for the members. They were using other players as free labour to generate free money for them.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 02-20-2019 at 12:16 PM.

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    There's absolutely no need for a taxation system to be implemented.
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    Nocturnia Uzuki
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    The only way I could see this working without total abuse is if it was a special currency that guild leaders gained when their guild was active. This currency could then only be spent on guild improvements.

    However, we'd still get guilds that entice people into their guilds just to get rewards and trumpet their guild as "top guild level" and having "all the benefits".
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    Leon Reddas
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    Aren't Company Credits a kind of indirect tax that goes to your FC? Players contribute to it in many ways while some don't even have the privilege (FC rank) to spend the credits either, so maybe we need more stuff worth trading for them.
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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Aren't Company Credits a kind of indirect tax that goes to your FC? Players contribute to it in many ways while some don't even have the privilege (FC rank) to spend the credits either, so maybe we need more stuff worth trading for them.
    Yes exactly! Everything people do online gets your FC credits.
    Your members are already paying you in a way that helps the FC.

    I've heard of FC's that ask for donations or monthly taxes and such from their members, and always found it super strange.
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Tax? Naw.

    Do what WoW does. It generates a percent of the money you loot and puts it in the guild bank. You still get the full amount of copper/silver/gold looted and the game creates out of thin air a percentage of what you looted and puts it in the guild bank. This percent would have to be low though for FF, something like 5% of what you loot. Also WoW ONLY did this for money you looted from mobs. Quest rewards didn't count.

    In return, add more uses for this FC gil. Make it so the FC person can buy more FC chest tabs and so on.
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