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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    This is purposefully obtuse and antagonistic. You know very well the accepted morals of society and what is considered "good behavior". To pretend you don't is dishonest to say the least. Maybe 30 or 40 years ago there was significant enough of a difference of morals between cultures to warrant clarification, but that's no longer the case. We live in a global society where commonly respectful behavior is well known (at least between peoples with common language and communication).

    There may be morally questionable yet culturally acceptable actions taken in some cultures, particularly in cultures that haven't evolved their understanding of women's rights, etc, but that has nothing to do with showing respect to other people (which those cultures are still capable of).
    So... in territories that "haven't evolved their understanding of women's rights" their actions are MORALLY acceptable... to them. How am I supposed to impose my morals on them? That's imperialism. IF they decide to align their morals with ours, that is their choice. I don't have to agree with someones morals for them to have morals. You are viewing the world through a black and white lens. You are also taking the position where you and yours have the most highly evolved understanding of right and wrong. Essentially you are saying that your society is the sole arbiter of what is and is not correct. That is the height of arrogance.

    Also no, I'm not being antagonistic, you are taking what I am saying as antagonistic because I have a different view of the world than you, and you dislike that. Hence your dismissive and frankly insulting post. The short form of your post reads as follows: If someone is different than you... they are wrong.

    This game is played by many people who have differing cultures and languages, why are people not acknowledging this?

    re·spect
    Dictionary result for respect
    /rəˈspekt/
    noun
    noun: respect; plural noun: respects

    1.
    a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.
    "the director had a lot of respect for Douglas as an actor"
    synonyms: esteem, regard, high regard, high opinion, acclaim, admiration, approbation, approval, appreciation, estimation, favor, popularity, recognition, veneration, awe, reverence, deference, honor, praise, homage
    "the respect due to a great artist"
    antonyms: contempt
    the state of being admired or respected.
    "his first chance in over fifteen years to regain respect in the business"
    a person's polite greetings.
    "give my respects to your parents"
    2.
    due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others.
    "young people's lack of respect for their parents"
    synonyms: due regard, consideration, thoughtfulness, attentiveness, politeness, courtesy, civility, deference
    "he speaks to the old lady with respect"

    I would argue that your post lacks respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    So... in territories that "haven't evolved their understanding of women's rights" their actions are MORALLY acceptable... to them.
    Those actions, yes. But please re-read my post, as you seem to have missed the important part of it. Even in those few countries with highly questionable actions that are accepted, they still understand and practice globally recognized morals and respect for other people. There exists no country or culture that doesn't have the bare minimum understanding of common decency and morals (except perhaps a very few native populations that don't have contact with the rest of the world).

    How am I supposed to impose my morals on them?
    That's a conversation for another topic, as there is a such thing as objective morality.

    IF they decide to align their morals with ours
    They do, at least in the context of what is being discussed in this thread.


    Also no, I'm not being antagonistic, you are taking what I am saying as antagonistic because I have a different view of the world than you, and you dislike that.
    Nope, not at all. You are being antagonistic, since you know very well the accepted morals of society and what is considered "good behavior". As I said, you are pretending you don't, which is dishonest. Your reply alone proves you know, yet you continue to create non-related arguments to conversations that don't even have any place here.


    This game is played by many people who have differing cultures and languages, why are people not acknowledging this?
    "People" are well aware of that. We are all quite well aware that there are other cultures with different values. But what you are purposefully ignoring is that there is a "base level" of common decency and respect that ALL CULTURES practice.
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