Baldesion Arsenal Feedback

[Rangar]

Problem is, not everyone has the same objective/skill/knowledge. People want to go into the same instance with people having the same objectives, and SE's system to too chaotic. Can you imagine one group looking to clear Ozma with 5 others there for the first time? Players are asking the community to organize itself so people with like-minded objective are all in the same instance. That's all. BA in general is a nice touch to Eureka, but it needs more refinement still.

[Eisenhower]

Yesterday evening it was impossible to find any instance not monopolized by +50 player discord groups. In fact, whenever a new instance spawned, it was because these large parties kept spamming to queue, and they would appropriate it.

I run some groups, but I've heard experiences from other players and even friends that the groups they were in was a very bad experience; a lot of yelling and people being downright rude.

The problem is that players with different mindsets and motivations are forced together by SqE's poor implementation. Those that want to be super serious about BA cannot choose to be in their own instance and have things strict and orderly without some curious solo player interrupting. Those that want to be chill and just check it out between fates and chains cannot choose to be in a laid back instance and just take a look at the arsenal without bumping into a pre-made. Both groups are forced together at random with little to no player control.

[Vnolan]

Those that want to be super serious about BA cannot choose to be in their own instance and have things strict and orderly without some curious solo player interrupting.

They can if they make use of a stabilizer.

[Eisenhower]

They can if they make use of a stabilizer.

And so could any player not part of a pre-made that happens to be there.

Perhaps an analogy would help:

There's a couple of football fields, and there are two teams that would like to play a match. There are also some other individual footballers that would like to kick some ball. But at the gate for the football fields, the players can't just go into an empty field of their choosing - or even a field that has space for them. They have to roll a dice and see which field they end up in. But hey, they can roll the dice as much as they want. No penalties or costs when you roll the dice!

The teams struggle to find each other in the same field and the other footballers are bothered by the teams trying to find a space to play. Everyone's troubled by the situation.

Are the teams at fault for trying to end up in the same field so they can play?
Are the field managers at fault for enforcing this method of entry?

[Kleeya]

Womp womp.

The reddit topic about that doesn't end here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...PL&sh=d0bcf69b

[Rockette]

It's like they put group content in the game and didn't think people would want to create groups for it

[cakesphere]

armory is awful. If you are courteous someone snipes your portal. If you say **** it and go in you get discord blacklisted. What great content for a great community (/s)

[Vahlnir]

The reddit topic about that doesn't end here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...PL&sh=d0bcf69b

Yeah, I figured we were missing something here. I couldn't imagine SE punishing people for simply going in of their own volition. Now if they're doing so with the intentions stated then yeah I could see that. THAT makes much more sense.

[Rangar]

I'm just throwing this out there NOW: BA is gonna HAVE to be broken off from Hydatos. People who are trying to organize runs are constantly running into the problem of simply not enough instances for the number of people trying to run it. What's gonna happen when nearly EVERYONE is 60 and this is all the majority of people will want to do?

[Vahlnir]

I'm just throwing this out there NOW: BA is gonna HAVE to be broken off from Hydatos. People who are trying to organize runs are constantly running into the problem of simply not enough instances for the number of people trying to run it. What's gonna happen when nearly EVERYONE is 60 and this is all the majority of people will want to do?

You see, this would have required some forethought on the devs' part. We have seen none of that through Eureka and figured the trend would continue with Hydatos. Sometimes I think that they understand their player base well...then there's times like this where it's very clear that they do not. If people have to use a 3rd party program to put together a premade for this with the chance of not being able to find your groups in the same instance at all...it's bad design. Plain and simple.