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  1. #19151
    Player
    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Got alphascape 2.0 storymode for my daily raid on my PLD. Lots of new people but we still managed to clear it in 1 go. Had him down to 10% when everyone but me and the other tank were dead but thanks to PLD self-heals we powered through. The stacker? Hallow grounded through it the first time. Second time? Sentinel, rampart, anticipation, awareness, all the stuff... managed to survive through that and take him down. I was shocked I lived through it but it was awesome.
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  2. #19152
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaddi View Post
    Leveling roulette. I was SCH, got titan normal. I'm not very good at SCH, currently lv 64 or something, but I can handle titan normal. Load in, notice the tank is a gladiator. Not a PLD. Ok, it's a newbie, maybe they just forgot to unlock PLD. Gear is lv 40-ish, though... So they should have PLD, right? Whatever, should be quick.

    Tank's first comment is something along the lines of "I hope this group co operates, last one didn't". Ok...? Maybe they had a bad party, this should still be quick. Tank pulls, things instantly goes wrong. Eos is tanking titan 99% or the time, I'm desperately trying to keep everyone alive while my Fairy, of course, dies. Tank uses absolutely no cooldowns. Not even rampart. We wipe. Tank says something along the lines "tip: try to keep the tank at close to full health." A dps counters with "keep aggro...?" and I think I say "unlock PLD...?" or something like that. After spamming psychic (Eos is still tanking a lot btw) on the tank when they sometimes have aggro, we somehow clear. But I don't think I did any dps there XD

    I mean... I get that you can be new. I love helping newbies. But that attitude...

    My poor Eos... He died a hero!
    I always whm when I decide to do levelling roulettes just cant take any chances my healer brain dont like letting anyone die even to PLC on thier part. But the Struggle becomes real when the tank doesnt try to keep aggro.
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  3. #19153
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Got alphascape 2.0 storymode for my daily raid on my PLD. Lots of new people but we still managed to clear it in 1 go. Had him down to 10% when everyone but me and the other tank were dead but thanks to PLD self-heals we powered through. The stacker? Hallow grounded through it the first time. Second time? Sentinel, rampart, anticipation, awareness, all the stuff... managed to survive through that and take him down. I was shocked I lived through it but it was awesome.
    Nice!

    I once had to solo the last 5-8% or so of Omega F normal, was able to keep myself up with clemency and use of what cooldowns I had left. Oddly enough it was the boss' aoe spamming that made it possible I think, I may have been in trouble if Omega M hadn't died and F was still doing its regular abilities without a healer.
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  4. #19154
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    Windsun33's Avatar
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    Ying Yei
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    Coeurl
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    ...Now comes the sad part though: The BLM who was basically just lying on the ground, told us that his previous group (remember that he was alone when I joined the instances) had tried to kick him, because he was watching the cutscene. Obviously that failed and lucky for the BLM they didnt want to wait til 5 minutes elapsed and left him alone instead...
    I am a noobie WHM, and was a "victim" if you will of something similar just yesterday. Was watching the cut scene for Titan (hard). I cut it early, after about 40 sec but by then the tank had already gone ahead and pulled a large herd of mobs, died, and then complained about not being healed. Was kicked from group. Most people will give sprouts a break, but there are obviously a few out there.. not so much.

    But what irked me most is that he accused me of trolling, saying that it was impossible that I had only been playing a month or so since I have 3 50+ gatherers...
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    Last edited by Windsun33; 02-19-2019 at 07:04 AM.

  5. #19155
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just got out of an Aery run that had me and my friend giggling near the end.

    We load in after I told him about the horrendous party I had just earlier (drg in 50 af gear and 50 company lance, why?) and once Protect is on we go forth to the first set, but I notice something wrong. Party comp was WAR, AST, MNK (friend), and me on RDM.

    The war tank doesn't use Tomahawk or Overpower, just immediately runs up and goes into a Butcher Block combo. My spells almost immediately rip hate from the tank and I'm forced to kite. Once the first set is dead, I point out that he needed to use Overpower. Spoiler alert: not once did he use Overpower throughout the entire dungeon.

    First boss I inform the group about the tethers. Tank gets tethers twice and does not bother to move, almost immediately killing him. He also kept the boss facing the group, so the rest of us had to move around to avoid getting cleaved. By the time we kill the first boss, the ast realizes the tank is not going to do their job and starts to focus heal my friend on his MNK. We trudge through the trash on the second hallway and on the section that drops the Smoldering Dragon the tank manages to get themselves killed by standing in aoes. Then I realize the war tank had already switched to Deliverance...which is not something you'd want to do at that level.

    My friend at this point said to me: 'I knew you told me that I was going to suffer with you in a dungeon, but I didn't expect this.'

    "Well," I said, "I did warn you."

    We get through to the second boss and we all realize that the tank is going to be dumber than a sack of bricks, and the AST starts popping boles on my friend. My friend ended up tanking the second boss while I was riding Lucid and Diversion, and when we finally down the second boss, the AST speaks up and challenged my friend to tank the rest of the dungeon. 'Challenge accepted,' he said.

    He did it up until the final boss, and I'm guessing the war might have gotten his bearings, as he walked forward to aggro Nidhogg...and kept him facing Estinien. We manage to bring him down to 20% for the add phase, however at this point both the war tank and my friend had died, and the ast raised the war tank. We kill the adds and I immediately hug Esty, and somehow this saves me from Massacre. Everyone else is eating dirt again. I die and we all respawn. At this point both my friend, myself, and the ast are laughing as to how funny it was.

    We get back into the boss room and beat Nidhogg, all the while the war tank was still just flailing about like normal dead weight would be. Somehow I got the comm and my friend got nothing.

    But a mnk tanking Nidhogg...had he had Earth's Reply at that level, it would've made it funnier.
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  6. #19156
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Windsun33 View Post
    I am a noobie WHM, and was a "victim" if you will of something similar just yesterday. Was watching the cut scene for Titan (hard). I cut it early, after about 40 sec but by then the tank had already gone ahead and pulled a large herd of mobs, died, and then complained about not being healed. Was kicked from group. Most people will give sprouts a break, but there are obviously a few out there.. not so much.

    But what irked me most is that he accused me of trolling, saying that it was impossible that I had only been playing a month or so since I have 3 50+ gatherers...
    Huh? Large number of mobs in Titan hard? I assume you also zoned into a duty in progress or else they would have been stuck int he starting ring until you finished anyway?
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  7. #19157
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Windsun33 View Post
    I am a noobie WHM, and was a "victim" if you will of something similar just yesterday. Was watching the cut scene for Titan (hard). I cut it early, after about 40 sec but by then the tank had already gone ahead and pulled a large herd of mobs, died, and then complained about not being healed. Was kicked from group. Most people will give sprouts a break, but there are obviously a few out there.. not so much.

    But what irked me most is that he accused me of trolling, saying that it was impossible that I had only been playing a month or so since I have 3 50+ gatherers...
    Something about the bolded doesn't quite make sense.
    First off: Tanks can't pull Trial bosses until everyone is out of cutscene (unless they're doing as the bots do). Secondly, Titan [Hard] doesn't have adds at all (aside from bombs and gaol).
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  8. 02-19-2019 07:44 AM

  9. #19158
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    So since the minion rates for weeping and dun scaith were raised I tried my luck.

    Weeping City? Smooth run. Rolled a 94. Lost to one 97.

    Dun Scaith? 2 wipes to Deathgaze Hollow enrage. People are... not good at this game. It was pushing my buttons how frequently I was having to raise. Every single stupid aero, void doom (pull in), or void blizzard SOMEONE falls off or dies. I have limits and I'm going to impose harsher ones eventually. How about if you get brink I stop raising you -_-
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  10. #19159
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Windsun33 View Post
    I am a noobie WHM, and was a "victim" if you will of something similar just yesterday. Was watching the cut scene for Titan (hard). I cut it early, after about 40 sec but by then the tank had already gone ahead and pulled a large herd of mobs, died, and then complained about not being healed. Was kicked from group. Most people will give sprouts a break, but there are obviously a few out there.. not so much.

    But what irked me most is that he accused me of trolling, saying that it was impossible that I had only been playing a month or so since I have 3 50+ gatherers...
    I think you have your duties mixed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  11. #19160
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    It's the double deal of aggro wars. Not only do the tanks not let just one of them be the tank, but they also stand apart from each other, so the boss swings around wildly. Like seriously, at least learn the proper Provoke procedure. Whenever tankswapping with my raid co-tank, we stack up and then do the Voke-Shirk dance. So much less hassle, the boss doesn't turn around to cleave people, and the melees get to keep their positionals going...
    You can't voke-shirk in 24-man raids.
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