PLD Advice - Skill bloating?

[Seraphor]

The WXHB is innately cumbersome. It requires you to double-tap the shoulder buttons to toggle an entirely seperate XHB on and off. That's already two extra button presses, then the mental check to make sure the correct XHB is displaying before you hit the button, greatly reducing your reliance on just muscle memory, but that double-tap toggle CAN fail to execute correctly and display the correct XHB.
This can easily cause far more than the 0.5s delay caused by macro'ing the odd situational skill.

This means that with just the expanded XHB, you get a maximum of 32 actions. And even then, I know some people who get mixed up between L2>R2 and R2>L2, and use the same XHB for both, meaning they only have 26 available actions.

All in all, there's as much reason to objectively criticise the use of the WXHB, as there is to objectively criticise the use of macro's.

[Kurando]

The WXHB is innately cumbersome. It requires you to double-tap the shoulder buttons to toggle an entirely seperate XHB on and off...

Double tap is not the only option, you can also hold let's say L2 then press/hold R2 (and vis versa) to bring up a hotbar. Though if players get the bars mixed up (like the ones you know) that's really their problem and not one with the system. Sure it's extra button presses if that's what you want to argue, but as with most things in the game anything can fail, whether it's be macros or XHB or whatever else we want to include.

All in all, no one is denying either has any faults but the experience of them varies with the player and they may have more success with one or the other, simple stuff really. No need to force feed an explanation though, accept difference of opinion move eh.

[Seraphor]

Double tap is not the only option, you can also hold let's say L2 then press/hold R2 (and vis versa) to bring up a hotbar. Though if players get the bars mixed up (like the ones you know) that's really their problem and not one with the system. Sure it's extra button presses if that's what you want to argue, but as with most things in the game anything can fail, whether it's be macros or XHB or whatever else we want to include.

That's the Expanded XHB, the Expanded and WXHBs are two entirely different things.

The WXHB is the 'additional space' you would need if the normal and expanded XHB's 32 combined slots weren't enough.