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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Maybe you should not present your highly subjective opinion as universal fact. I love Eureka, and I wish more content in the game was like it.

    With the sheer number of people in Eureka at all times, I'd say even your logic of doing so is wrong because it is popular and consistently active.
    The right question to ask is, is it active because people want the relic achievement/glamour, because people want to see Absolute Virtue or because Eureka itself is enjoyable? We'll never know as these 3 pieces of content have been smushed together when there was no need for them to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    The right question to ask is, is it active because people want the relic achievement/glamour, because people want to see Absolute Virtue or because Eureka itself is enjoyable? We'll never know as these 3 pieces of content have been smushed together when there was no need for them to be.
    Who knows? The devs seem to think it is popular based on what they have said. But here are some facts that I can say for certain based on dev information and community observation:
    - Eureka is not meant for everyone, and it was designed that way. Eureka is for the type of player that likes passive grinds and FFXIesque gameplay, and the mechanics and openness of gameplay reflect that. Not all of it is perfect, and it did get off to a rough start, but some of the complaints about Eureka could be compared to complaining about Ultimate because it is too hard. Which leads me onto:
    - Many of the complaints and negative comments are from players who do not actively play Eureka. How many comments do you see that say "I'm glad I didn't get passed anemos, Eureka is trash". Thats not feedback, thats a stigma as Haxxan said.

    When we combine these two facts, its clear that the most vocal criticisms are from those that the content wasn't designed for.

    So is it good content? It is to some people and not to others, it's as simple as that. I know is that I enjoy it, I know others who enjoy it, it presents some good systems I would love to see elsewhere and it is always active. Ultimately it doesn't matter what anyone's individual opinion is, because the metrics will tell the devs everything they need to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Who knows? The devs seem to think it is popular based on what they have said. But here are some facts that I can say for certain based on dev information and community observation:
    - Eureka is not meant for everyone, and it was designed that way. Eureka is for the type of player that likes passive grinds and FFXIesque gameplay, and the mechanics and openness of gameplay reflect that. Not all of it is perfect, and it did get off to a rough start, but some of the complaints about Eureka could be compared to complaining about Ultimate because it is too hard. Which leads me onto:
    - Many of the complaints and negative comments are from players who do not actively play Eureka. How many comments do you see that say "I'm glad I didn't get passed anemos, Eureka is trash", thats not feedback, thats a stigma as Haxxan said.

    When we combine these two facts, its clear that the most vocal criticisms are from those that the content wasn't designed for.

    So is it good content? It is to some people and not to others, it's as simple as that. I know is that I enjoy it, I know others who enjoy it, it presents some good systems I would love to see elsewhere and it is always active. Ultimately it doesn't matter what anyone's individual opinion is, because the metrics will tell the devs everything they need to know.
    Of course I am not knocking on people that enjoy Eureka themselves. I personally enjoyed Anemos before being broken by Pagos and giving up. My issues with those metrics is that Eureka has too many things involved in it to say if the concept is enjoyable. If I want a relic skin for glamour, I'm stuck grinding and I'll be seen in those metrics without being consulted on if I enjoy what I'm doing or not. If I'm grinding for Absolute Virtue, nobody will make the difference if I enjoy the grind or if my grind is a means to an end. Also people that aren't actively playing Eureka also have valid feedback. Why aren't they playing it? What would they like to see changed to make it more appealing to them as well? These are questions SE should ask instead of relying on how many players zone into the damnable thing.
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    That was my own opinion if some of you read that i posted as universal fact you need to learn how to read?
    Perhaps i should not have used the example i did i could admit that now but still.
    Myself i would rather do EX Primals or Savage content, but carry on if you like Eureka not all of us do so...
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    Last edited by Maero; 02-14-2019 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    Shows how much I use LB on BRD to think brds have raise lb again. rip.
    Hey, it's great on the last boss in Ghimlyt Dark and uh... I'm not sure what else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanitas View Post
    I hope it does ozma things.
    You mean break up alliances and destroy friendships?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    I'm not sure what else.
    Pretty sure it was good In the Rabanastre alliance raid. I mean if you didn't have a caster in your group and the stone-adds were growing due to lack of dmg/gear. I remember LBing those and the whole trying to line them up bit.

    Other than that I really don't...Oh yeah, wait there was that time when it first came out - the lb3 that is - after they did remove raise - that I would try to use it on Ifrit Hard Roulette before Melee did theirs because of the fact that I always did like the shower of arrows and the whole bowing after it.

    Hmm..

    =

    Back On topic here: I watched JP get squished by AV in mere minutes and I flinched because of the PTSD from 11. Masaka was the perfect word.

    Edit2:
    I just went to youtube after this post and saw Mr.Happy clear AV awesome job! ;D And Proto Ozma is a troll.
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    Last edited by Mirakumi; 02-14-2019 at 06:02 PM.

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    well. One group of NA raiders just cleared the Arsenal. Yup, the mount does do Ozma things, here's a clip https://clips.twitch.tv/TiredDependablePenguinKappaRoss
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    Meanwhile i cant even level... how nice.
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    Relics were supposed to be the way for casuals to sloooooowly get the same ilvl as the hardcore raiders...then they added a hardcore raiding step. I guess it will get easier as people grind the 1st boss enough for max elemental gears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    then they added a hardcore raiding step.
    The Arsenal is related to neither Eureka's story nor the relic. Plenty of folks in my linkshell getting their 405s without setting foot in there.
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